CO said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

It was always a children's story.

VINH, I have to respectfully disagree. SW77' and ESB were not MADE for children, they were essentially made for an older teenager audience that kids and adults can enjoy.

Lucas had NO idea that children like myself would latch onto it in 1977, or else he wouldn't have marketed to at Comic Con back in 1976. The demographic for that audience was teenage/early 20's comic/scifi geeks who were a niche audience. Lucas even said if the movie made 50 million he would have been happy.

What happen to SW was an utter phenomenon, and I have always stood by the success of the movie to the masses was the worse thing to happen to the series, because essentially Lucas tried to please everyone.

SW & ESB are true hard hitting scifi movies that are edgy, yet have a touch of humor, but really not TARGETED to kids. You don't have burning skeletons in a kids movie! You don't have Luke get his hand chopped off in a kids movie! Trust me, I watched alot of kids movies in the late 70's/early 80's, they were more in line with 'The Muppet Movie' and 'The Apple Dumpling Gang'.

Well, back in 77 Lucas said Star Wars was for kids, so that view is not a new development. And I don't think your arguments work as proof that it is not a kids film that was made to be appreciated by adults. As for being hard hitting science fiction movies that are edgy, I see ROTJ as being that. I think there's more room for different things in a kids film than you allow.

Also, it's been pointed out to me that the ending of ANH (big happy celebration, they all get medals) is hardly mature and is distinctly kiddy. While Leia's bikini outfit is certainly not a sign of a film that is aimed strictly at kids.

TPM WAS aimed strictlly at kids and there you get a guy being chopped in half. I don't see how that's so different from burning skeletons and a hand getting chopped off. And we had a guy burning up in the second ewok movie.