xhonzi said:

After the movie, my wife and I were discussing our relative dissatisfactions with the movie and specifically the "turn." She asked me how it could have been better. My mind instantly went back to the Emperor's Throne Room. It gave me an all new appreciation for how good that scene really was. When Luke uses the Dark Side while putting the smack down on Vader... that feels very real, believable and... smooth. It comes from the characters. Luke using the Dark Side something that comes from the character, something that's been under the surface the entire movie. Anakin's turn is something dictated by the script.

This is exactly how I feel towards ROTJ, and probably why I sat there in utter belief when Anakin finally turned in ROTS, "OK, that was it?????"

Lucas sold the audience on the dark side back in 1983, you felt it building and building as The Emperor goated Luke for the last 20 minutes of the movie. Once Luke goes apeshit on Vader, you got a taste of what the dark side can do to a person.

Once Anakin turns in ROTS, it throws away everything that Lucas accomplished in 1983. I know Zombie talked about this before about how Lucas re-shot the turn scene and everything that led up to that point because the first shot didn't work, and it felt uninspired. Hey George, did you watch the re-shoots??? The same thing happened!

This was my point about the difference between the PT and ROTJ. ROTJ has its flaws, and it is has that kiddy tone, but the last 45 minutes is absolutely fabulous. Does it make a classic movie? No, but good enough.

Sorry, I haven't put in an avatar after all these years, just call me lazy -:)