Vaderisnothayden said:
Not successfully demonstrated, not backed up with examples that prove the point.
There are plenty of examples in this thread (and others) of people's reasons for feeling the way they do. No need for me to quote them all.
And for the record, people's examples of what they dislike are not incorrect, myth, cliche', etc - they're people's examples of what they dislike.
People's opinions of a film - of anything - are not incorrect. If someone doesn't dig Eggs Benedict, they really don't dig it - it's not a myth or a cliche - it's a meal they don't care to eat. Even if it's your favorite meal, it doesn't mean the people who don't like it are wrong.
You liking Return doesn't mean my reasons for disliking it are cliche - it means that in 1983 I didn't like the film. I've given you my reasons and I assure you, they are correct - they're actually the reasons I don't like it. They're not final say on what the film is - they're my reasons for not liking it.
You're appreciation of the film doesn't render my dislike of it as incorrect. You can rest assured that no matter how many times you tell me my opinion is incorrect - it's not. I've disliked Return for 26 years. That dislike is genuine.
...the later two prequels (which you really should see before you make generalizations about the prequels).
Regarding my not having seen the last two prequels or the SEs - I always preface my limited comments on them with the statement that I haven't seen them and that I can only base my opinions on the one prequel I have seen.
Re your ewok picture, picking on one creature that appears only briefly and is a very minor part of the film does not work as an argument to condemn the whole film
It doesn't have to work as an argument to condemn the whole film - it only has to work as one of the reasons I dislike the film.
V - I find some of your comments and posts to be very interesting & insightful. My problem isn't with you or your defense, enjoyment, and feelings regarding Return. My problem is you continually telling me that my thoughts & opinions are incorrect. They aren't. With God as my witness - I honestly don't like Return. I was disappointed by it about 30 minutes into in 1983 and that has never changed, nor will it ever.
I notice from your tone that you are getting a tad pissed off with me.
Not at all. However, if that ever does happen, you'll know immediately.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to pack. I'm getting in about 300 miles of riding tomorrow and then I'm off to California for a week.