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Post #377149

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Vaderisnothayden
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Our Fault, Not George's?
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Date created
11-Sep-2009, 11:28 AM
skyjedi2005 said:

It is interesting that fans feel as sense of ownership of the star wars mythos, in the same way star trek fans feel a sense of ownership over roddenberry's creation.

To Create something like creates a modern mythology and has that much of a social effect on society is absolutely phenomenal, and has a lasting effect.  Wars like Trek is not a passing fad, they both in their own way speak to people.

Obviously Lucas legally owns star wars 100% and could tell the fans to fuck off if he wanted, hell sometimes artists have to do that as much as they need outside input they also need to not have their vision muddied.

Some of the problems star wars has are due to pandering to some of the fans.  The whole Jango Fett/Boba Fett thing for instance, fans wanted to see mandalorians in the films.

Just like fans wanted a fourth Indiana Jones film then after the fact said they perfered it would have ended with three. Fans that initially wanted a 9 film star wars saga say they wish star wars had died in 1983 with what dignity it had left.

You can't please everyone at once.  Some fans love all six films equally even return of the jedi a much bashed film, as the fan bashing on that is almost as bad as the phantom menace.

Star Wars is a modern classic. As such, it belongs to the people, not just to Mr Lucas, whatever the legality of it. And Lucas should respect that. It is an outrage that something beloved of millions should be destroyed to satisfy the whims of one man. As for having one's artistic vision muddled, I think Lucas's vision of Star wars is quite plenty muddled as is, without any help from us. And I couldn't care less about Lucas's vision of Star Wars, or at least the vision of the Lucas of the 90s and onwards. It looks to me like his Star Wars "vision" is utterly invalid and crap.

Who knew Indy 4 was going to be second rate? Well, I guess we should have had some idea, seeing as this was coming from Lucas in the post-prequel era. Plus he'd already screwed up Indy with that awful Young Indy show. I liked the idea of seeing Harry Ford back in the hat. As it is, Indy 4 is still much more Indy than the PT is Star Wars and and much better.

And back in the old days I wanted new Star Wars films like most people. I didn't realize Lucas was going to (as I see it) go out of his way to make them bad movies. In retrospect I realize I should have been happy with just 3, but who knew? After the awfulnes of the SE we should have seen the writing on the wall, but before that?

As for ROTJ bashing, that will never fail to bewilder me. ROTJ is a great movie, the equal of the other two, and it has some of the best stuff in the trilogy.