The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 109

probably not.

but you never know.;)

with the whole speech thing, i was wondering if someone dedicated enough could actually insert a character who may not interact too much with events, or recast bail organa. if there was a speech for instance, maybe events such as anakins 'death', extra scenes etc could be cut in a way that requires less footage. kind of like gordons speech at the end of dark knight.

With all the talk about Alien recently I tried to make Geonosis look a bit more like LV-426 than Tatooine:

vaderios said:

well yes. but gordon's like speetch doest fit with the known star wars story telling.

 

-Angel

 i know, but perhaps it might work as a 20 year gap is also pretty unusual. these are just ideas, maybe someone can take inspiration from them?

Bingowings said:

With all the talk about Alien recently I tried to make Geonosis look a bit more like LV-426 than Tatooine:

Love it! Was it Vaderios who did something similar before where he made Geonosis a lot darker, with a green tint?

Angels's can be found here http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Prequel-Radical-Redux-Ideas-Thread/topic/9911/page/80/

Another for my set:

Thanks! I love both concepts. Do I recall someone a while ago mentioning creating a thread for all these prequel mockups so they'd all be in one place? If it exists I can't seem to find it...

Yes, more blue!

Now it fits in with the OT!

I swear I'm not doing this just to be contrary but if Geonosis is to be less orange perhaps Kamino should be a bit more :

Essentially both locations are doing the same thing (building an army for Palpatine/Sidious) overlapping the two would underline that.

Funnily enough, I've been thinking of what Kamino would be like with more of a red tint, because in my edit, I want to recolour Jango's armour to what it's like in the OT. And as you can see in the film, his visor matches up with the blue surroundings.

I don't really see the point in recoloring Jango. He's a different character from Boba, so he should have a different color scheme on his armor.

Bingowings said:

I swear I'm not doing this just to be contrary but if Geonosis is to be less orange perhaps Kamino should be a bit more :

Essentially both locations are doing the same thing (building an army for Palpatine/Sidious) overlapping the two would underline that.

 

I can't stop looking at this, did you paint it?

Do you have it in a higher resolution?

In any case, I'm a supporter of every edit that gives the AOTC planets more than one colour.

EDIT

silly me, I should've just looked at the image url ^^

Timstuff said:

I don't really see the point in recoloring Jango. He's a different character from Boba, so he should have a different color scheme on his armor.

In my edit, he's Boba. We never see him without his helmet, never see the kid, or hear any of this "Boba is a clone" nonsense.

Also, even in an un-edited version, we can assume that Boba recovered the armour and repainted it.....why?

Just playing around with the hue/saturation to see what it would look like. Killing two birds with one stone here. Seeing Bingo's sky along with a red visored "JanBoba" :)

I really liked Magnoliafan's idea of changing Dooku's lightsaber color to keep it a secret that he's a Sith until the end. For the audience, he should come across as being a rogue Jedi / political idealist until Sideous shows up later, so his red saber should not come into play until Episode 3.

Other edits keep him as a Jedi indefinitely. He's not a bad guy, but rather the only one who knows the truth and is trying to save the republic.

*double post*

I wish I had painted it, it's from Erik Tiemens website, there's more here:

http://www.watersketch.com/sw2_large/ 

brash, have you seen ben_danger's lovely Jengo-Boba transformations?

http://img195.imageshack.us/i/bobajango.jpg/

In answer to your question Angel, try looking in the inside pocket of your jacket.

Timstuff said:

I don't really see the point in recoloring Jango. He's a different character from Boba, so he should have a different color scheme on his armor.

One reason for doing it would be to collapse the two characters together so that the man in the shiny suit in Episode II is the same guy in the beat up costume in Episode V.

If he never takes his helmet off (they made the same mistake in Judge Dredd movie), never loses his head and we never see that annoying kid the fan service at least has more resonance and the mystery guy remains a mystery and not some clone.

Jengo is a another thing Lucas screwed up.

Obi-Wan is sent to investigate a clue to the identity of the Bounty Hunter trying to kill Padme (who is trying to stop the creation of a new army). He follows him to a planet where they are making an army using Jengo as the template and then to a planet where Dooku is building a droid army (and Fett acts like his personal bodyguard) they use one army to fight the other and don't twig?

Someone has to seperate those two plotlines somehow.

Couldn't he follow Fett but Fett gives him the slip and he finds the Seperatist fleet massing near Geonosis?

Lucky break yes but at least Fett isn't directly linked to both armies.

Bingowings said:

brash, have you seen ben_danger's lovely Jengo-Boba transformations?

http://img195.imageshack.us/i/bobajango.jpg/

Yup! It's wonderful :)

Bingowings said:

Jengo is a another thing Lucas screwed up.

Obi-Wan is sent to investigate a clue to the identity of the Bounty Hunter trying to kill Padme (who is trying to stop the creation of a new army). He follows him to a planet where they are making an army using Jengo as the template and then to a planet where Dooku is building a droid army (and Fett acts like his personal bodyguard) they use one army to fight the other and don't twig?

Someone has to seperate those two plotlines somehow.

Couldn't he follow Fett but Fett gives him the slip and he finds the Seperatist fleet massing near Geonosis?

Lucky break yes but at least Fett isn't directly linked to both armies.

If I had my way, he wouldn't be the template for the clones either. There's no purpose in having him be the template other than as a fan service. He should be an assassin working for the Seperatists. Nothing more. The only reason he's even on Kamino is because the stupid plot needs him to be there so that obi wan can accidentally come across a secret clone army that the republic/jedi don't know about, but are apparently happy to use, despite the fact it clearly wasn't commissioned by them).

The clones should not be a secret, because the Jedi then using and continuing to use them, defies logic.

Also, the whole sifo-dyas thing went absolutely nowhere, and makes no sense either. Our first thought is that Sifo-dyas is a pseudonym for Sidious, but it turns out that there actually existed a Jedi called Sifo-Dyas. Errrr WHAT?!

Seeing as we can't realistically cut out Kamino simply due to issues of run time (it's an utterly pointless part of the story otherwise) and if we take away the Jedi's ignorance of the army as well as Jango being the template, then we need to find a different reason for him being there. And a way of conveying that Kamino is not some mystery planet. That Obi Wan knows what's being done there.

The other alternative is to not have Jango working for the seperatists at all (especially if we're doing an edit where Dooku is the only one who knows the truth and is fighting for the greater good)......we know he tries to assassinate amidala, we know he's the template for the clone army (unfortunately) but he is not seen on Geonosis.

But then how do we explain how Obi Wan gets to Geonosis, if it's not by following Jango?

Christ on a bike, this film is a mess.

That's sort of what I was saying.

And yes it is a real mess.

Sure the Dark Side might be stopping their Jedi senses from tingling but a hired killer associated with creation of two armies and that hired killer has been trying to kill a senator trying to stop the creation of one of them, after defeating the other ten years back and a Jedi is behind both of them and they are JEDI??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's nuts.

And they actually looked surprised when they are being killed?

Guardians of peace and justice, my arse.

That's even more bonkers than having a huge death pit in your throne room (at least Jabba's had a trapdoor).

Maybe after a few hours fighting in the rain Obi-Wan and Fett have a man-hug and a beer and Fett just tells him he heard a rumor about some crazy old wizard living on a desert planet, planning to overthrow the government.

Bingowings said:

Maybe after a few hours fighting in the rain Obi-Wan and Fett have a man-hug and a beer and Fett just tells him he heard a rumor about some crazy old wizard living on a desert planet, planning to overthrow the government.

Haha I like!

Meh, personally I like the vibrant shades of the original better. It could stand to be toned down a bit, but Geonosis is clearly intended from the start to be a red planet, and if you try to tone it down too much you start either bringing everything else down with it, or altering what the concept of the planet was in the first place (it always reminded me of Mars, personally).

BTW, I'm going to start working on dubbing over a scene of Jar Jar's dialogue from Episode 1 as an expiriment. I'm not a particularly gifted voice actor (to my knowledge, at least), nor am I particularly experienced in sound mixing (there might be some glitches in the ambient sound where I dub over Jar Jar), but hopefully the results are good enough to prove my concept of dubbing over Jar Jar with new voice acting rather than jibberish. I'll probably try several voices and see which one myself and viewers like best.