skyjedi2005 said:
So is there frame weave and jitter in the gout, when i was watching star wars even during the roll up, it was all shaky. Or is that a part of the 77 original because it had to be filmed that way?
Yes, there is frame judder in the GOUT, and on the 93 LD. It's from the film shaking in the telecine machine when they made the transfer.
skyjedi2005 said:
I think it is also dishonest to say the non anamorphic transfer is the theatrical presentation since the films were shown in anamorphic widescreen and were shot that way, or that the limited resolution of a laserdisc master somehow resolves all the detail that was even on a print in bad shape like the gout star wars is.
DVD anamorphic and film anamorphic are two completely different things. They share similar concepts, but saying that because a film was shot anamorphic and the DVD isn't anamorphic, that means the DVD isn't the original version, is a load of horseshit.
Anamorphic on film means that an oval lens squishes the light to fit the whole 2.39:1 (or 2.35:1, 2.55:1, and, for 70mm, 2.76:1) frame into the 1.33:1 frame on the negative. When projected, another oval lens "unsquishes" the image back out to its intended 2.39:1 aspect ratio. Spherical lenses (that's 1.33:1, 1.44:1 [IMAX], 1.66:1, 1.78:1, 1.85:1, 2:1, 2.2:1 [70mm spherical], and 2.39:1 if shot using the Super 35 format) use a lens that is, well, spherical, and it either A) fills the 1.33:1 frame completely and the top and bottom are matted out later ("soft matte"), or B) the aperture gate (or something similar I, can't recall) mattes out the areas that wouldn't be seen in a theater, so they're never recorded ("hard matte"). The film is projected with a spherical lens as well.
With DVD, you're just making it so you get the fullest resolution (this way less bitrate is wasted on black bars), regardless of whether you're watching on a 4:3 or 16:9 TV. It has nothing to do with whether the film was shot anamorphically or spherically. In fact, on Blu-Ray and HDTV, there's no such thing as anamorphic - 1920x1080 and 1280x720 are both natively 16:9 with square pixels, and they're never intended to be seen on anything other than a 16:9 screen (since no one has a high-def 4:3 screen), so anything slimmer or wider than 1.78:1 just gets black bars on it.
So there are plenty of movies that aren't anamorphic that are on DVD, and there are plenty of films that are anamorphic that aren't on Blu-Ray.