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ladyferry said:
Darth Solo said:

Woot? V2 of SWR? For gods sake dont become another Star Wars tinker man!

 

Hang on, we aint stung in the pocket for every re-release :-)

Id love to say i had the new updated edition to people who have revisted already (just for those in the know ;-)).

I find all this V2 of SWR a bit anal, and also insulting to Adywan who spent over two years of his life correcting mistakes and tinkering with effects to make them better - for free!!!

No matter what Adywan did, some people were never satisfied with what they got, and feel the need to go one step further with the ultimate 'Revisited' edit. Even then they'll complain or want to change something else. Any edit past the 'Revisited' edit by Adywan is a totally different edit and therefore shouldn't be called a 'Revisited' revisited edit.

Its done, dusted and best left as is, and that is a masterpiece. Thank-you Adywan!

And I thought it was Anakin that was whiny.

 

 

Damn Straight if it aint broke don't fix it

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:
ladyferry said:
Darth Solo said:

Woot? V2 of SWR? For gods sake dont become another Star Wars tinker man!

 

Hang on, we aint stung in the pocket for every re-release :-)

Id love to say i had the new updated edition to people who have revisted already (just for those in the know ;-)).

I find all this V2 of SWR a bit anal, and also insulting to Adywan who spent over two years of his life correcting mistakes and tinkering with effects to make them better - for free!!!

No matter what Adywan did, some people were never satisfied with what they got, and feel the need to go one step further with the ultimate 'Revisited' edit. Even then they'll complain or want to change something else. Any edit past the 'Revisited' edit by Adywan is a totally different edit and therefore shouldn't be called a 'Revisited' revisited edit.

Its done, dusted and best left as is, and that is a masterpiece. Thank-you Adywan!

And I thought it was Anakin that was whiny.

Damn Straight if it aint broke don't fix it

Um, it was Ady's idea, and its mostly so we can have an audio commentary.  He might change maybe 3 things.  I would think of it as a NON-PURIST version with commentary more than ANHR Revisited.

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doubleofive said:
EyeShotFirst said:
ladyferry said:
Darth Solo said:

Woot? V2 of SWR? For gods sake dont become another Star Wars tinker man!

 

Hang on, we aint stung in the pocket for every re-release :-)

Id love to say i had the new updated edition to people who have revisted already (just for those in the know ;-)).

I find all this V2 of SWR a bit anal, and also insulting to Adywan who spent over two years of his life correcting mistakes and tinkering with effects to make them better - for free!!!

No matter what Adywan did, some people were never satisfied with what they got, and feel the need to go one step further with the ultimate 'Revisited' edit. Even then they'll complain or want to change something else. Any edit past the 'Revisited' edit by Adywan is a totally different edit and therefore shouldn't be called a 'Revisited' revisited edit.

Its done, dusted and best left as is, and that is a masterpiece. Thank-you Adywan!

And I thought it was Anakin that was whiny.

Damn Straight if it aint broke don't fix it

Um, it was Ady's idea, and its mostly so we can have an audio commentary.  He might change maybe 3 things.  I would think of it as a NON-PURIST version with commentary more than ANHR Revisited.

Was it really? I didn't know that. Blimey am I eating my words now...

 

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doubleofive said:
EyeShotFirst said:
ladyferry said:
Darth Solo said:

Woot? V2 of SWR? For gods sake dont become another Star Wars tinker man!

 

Hang on, we aint stung in the pocket for every re-release :-)

Id love to say i had the new updated edition to people who have revisted already (just for those in the know ;-)).

I find all this V2 of SWR a bit anal, and also insulting to Adywan who spent over two years of his life correcting mistakes and tinkering with effects to make them better - for free!!!

No matter what Adywan did, some people were never satisfied with what they got, and feel the need to go one step further with the ultimate 'Revisited' edit. Even then they'll complain or want to change something else. Any edit past the 'Revisited' edit by Adywan is a totally different edit and therefore shouldn't be called a 'Revisited' revisited edit.

Its done, dusted and best left as is, and that is a masterpiece. Thank-you Adywan!

And I thought it was Anakin that was whiny.

Damn Straight if it aint broke don't fix it

Um, it was Ady's idea, and its mostly so we can have an audio commentary.  He might change maybe 3 things.  I would think of it as a NON-PURIST version with commentary more than ANHR Revisited.

So Ady is releasing his true vision. He did go along with what most of the purist said on his regular revisited release. Regardless of what he does I am going to get it LOL. I hope he does whatever he wants to it because he has good taste and a good eye.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:
doubleofive said:
EyeShotFirst said:
ladyferry said:
Darth Solo said:

Woot? V2 of SWR? For gods sake dont become another Star Wars tinker man!

 

Hang on, we aint stung in the pocket for every re-release :-)

Id love to say i had the new updated edition to people who have revisted already (just for those in the know ;-)).

I find all this V2 of SWR a bit anal, and also insulting to Adywan who spent over two years of his life correcting mistakes and tinkering with effects to make them better - for free!!!

No matter what Adywan did, some people were never satisfied with what they got, and feel the need to go one step further with the ultimate 'Revisited' edit. Even then they'll complain or want to change something else. Any edit past the 'Revisited' edit by Adywan is a totally different edit and therefore shouldn't be called a 'Revisited' revisited edit.

Its done, dusted and best left as is, and that is a masterpiece. Thank-you Adywan!

And I thought it was Anakin that was whiny.

Damn Straight if it aint broke don't fix it

Um, it was Ady's idea, and its mostly so we can have an audio commentary.  He might change maybe 3 things.  I would think of it as a NON-PURIST version with commentary more than ANHR Revisited.

So Ady is releasing his true vision. He did go along with what most of the purist said on his regular revisited release. Regardless of what he does I am going to get it LOL. I hope he does whatever he wants to it because he has good taste and a good eye.

 

I feel like such a plum!

 

I am a kite dancing in a hurricane …

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Ady, Imho, but dont do a V2. That's just like doing a Lucas

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The objections to Lucas' redoing things is down to buggering things up and refusing to release the originals.

So I have no objection to revisions of Revisiteds (ANH, ESB or any other) if Ady wants to do it and has some improvement in his mind (be it to the edit or some added feature), they are his projects and the original version will be out there for sometime to come.

Nice to hear about the hard work going into the Slave One in the trash trail scene.

I can't wait to see how the final results turn out.

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I wanted to ask something. I've been watching these threads for some time but so far i haven't seen anyone mention this and I didn't see it on the first page so... Well actually it's not a thing to be fixed because it's fine but I wanted to know is Ady considering adding a small (very small) speedup to some parts of the Luke/Vader duel. Like I said It's not a thing to be fixed just considered.

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He may do that, he did it with the Ben/Vader fight in Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with the duels as such, just that the prequels had much better choreography and they make them look a little pedestrian.

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According to Ady, there are no speed-ups in the Ben/Vader fight, just faster cuts.  Interesting, no?

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doubleofive said:

According to Ady, there are no speed-ups in the Ben/Vader fight, just faster cuts.  Interesting, no?

 

That's actually true.  Using his ANH:R as reference, I attempted to duplicate what he did using the 2004 DVD (Ady, don't be angry about that.  I did give you credit in the vid)

And the end result is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFo2dWt5fY

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Someday, I'm want to make a splitscreen comparison of the whole movie.  Not sure how I could do the straight-up rearranged scenes short of rearranging them on the original...

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Nice work G E Predator... I like how your rearrangement of the shots allows for more time to pass between Han and Chewie showing up, and Luke and Leia rejoining them.  Also nice editing on the duel itself.

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doubleofive said:

Someday, I'm want to make a splitscreen comparison of the whole movie.  Not sure how I could do the straight-up rearranged scenes short of rearranging them on the original...

 

If it's a DVD comparison you could have two seperate audio channels for the viewer to switch between.

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Tobar said:
doubleofive said:

Someday, I'm want to make a splitscreen comparison of the whole movie.  Not sure how I could do the straight-up rearranged scenes short of rearranging them on the original...

If it's a DVD comparison you could have two seperate audio channels for the viewer to switch between.

Right, I'm thinking something like WookieGroomer's Split Screen.  But this is definitely a "someday" proposition, and others could definitely take this up instead of me.

I'm beginning to wonder if this was the reason the PURIST edition exists (since Ady said that no one but him has figured out the real reason behind it)...

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Ripplin said:
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(since Ady said that no one but him has figured out the real reason behind it)...

I don't think Ady had to figure it out...

Just playing. Language is funny sometimes. :) Think he'll ever clue us in?

You know, I knew it would come across as that, but I was too lazy to restructure the whole post.

I think its either for splitscreen video ease or he did a rough version of PURIST for the Visual Comparison...

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Darth Venal said:

He may do that, he did it with the Ben/Vader fight in Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with the duels as such, just that the prequels had much better choreography and they make them look a little pedestrian.

I disagree. Aside from a few shots in Duel of the Fates, the PT lightsabre duels look contrived, rehearsed, and choreographed. Of course, that's because the duels in all of the Star Wars movies are in fact contrived, rehearsed, and choreographed, but the OT duels (aside from ANH, of course) don't look that way. In Luke's duels with Vader, it really looks like they're each trying to skewer one another. In the PT duels, it just looks like each contender is trying to swing his sabre around fancily and make contact with the other's blade.

Sure, the PT battles look pretty. So do acrobat routines, parades, and rock concert choreography, but there's no real danger to be found. I prefer my lightsabre duels to be a little more realistic and spontaneous, myself. The PT duels are many things to many people, but they certainly aren't spontaneous, or believable.

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Akwat Kbrana said:
Darth Venal said:

He may do that, he did it with the Ben/Vader fight in Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with the duels as such, just that the prequels had much better choreography and they make them look a little pedestrian.

I disagree. Aside from a few shots in Duel of the Fates, the PT lightsabre duels look contrived, rehearsed, and choreographed. Of course, that's because the duels in all of the Star Wars movies are in fact contrived, rehearsed, and choreographed, but the OT duels (aside from ANH, of course) don't look that way. In Luke's duels with Vader, it really looks like they're each trying to skewer one another. In the PT duels, it just looks like each contender is trying to swing his sabre around fancily and make contact with the other's blade.

Sure, the PT battles look pretty. So do acrobat routines, parades, and rock concert choreography, but there's no real danger to be found. I prefer my lightsabre duels to be a little more realistic and spontaneous, myself. The PT duels are many things to many people, but they certainly aren't spontaneous, or believable.

 

ABSOLUTELY. The PT duels are nowhere near as dangerous-looking as the Luke/Vader duel in ESB. The battles in the PT look like they're dancing.

Ady, in the Luke/Vader ESB duel, after Luke sticks the smoking tube in Vader's face, he gets his lightsaber back and swings it at Vader, who blocks it. However, Luke and Vader's sabers should be rearranged, as Luke's blade should be on the RIGHT, and Vader's on the LEFT. As it is now, it looks like Luke is blocking Vader, instead of vice-versa. Can this be fixed?

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The Golden Idol said:

Ady, in the Luke/Vader ESB duel, after Luke sticks the smoking tube in Vader's face, he gets his lightsaber back and swings it at Vader, who blocks it. However, Luke and Vader's sabers should be rearranged, as Luke's blade should be on the RIGHT, and Vader's on the LEFT. As it is now, it looks like Luke is blocking Vader, instead of vice-versa. Can this be fixed?

There's actually no problem with that shot. Look at it in slow motion and you see that  Luke swings his saber then the first few frames he is still swinging it and Vader blocks it. Vaders is on the left and Lukes on the right.

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Yeah, I should have been a little more articulate and said the prequels had much more complex choreography, rather than better. Lazy of me. And I absolutely agree, they really do look contrived, rehearsed and choreographed. Some work better than others, but it definitely feels like a dance rather than a duel.

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adywan said:
The Golden Idol said:

Ady, in the Luke/Vader ESB duel, after Luke sticks the smoking tube in Vader's face, he gets his lightsaber back and swings it at Vader, who blocks it. However, Luke and Vader's sabers should be rearranged, as Luke's blade should be on the RIGHT, and Vader's on the LEFT. As it is now, it looks like Luke is blocking Vader, instead of vice-versa. Can this be fixed?

There's actually no problem with that shot. Look at it in slow motion and you see that  Luke swings his saber then the first few frames he is still swinging it and Vader blocks it. Vaders is on the left and Lukes on the right.

 

 Ah, ok, I understand now. Nevermind then.

So, how is everything coming along? What is being worked on now?

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Darth Venal said:

Yeah, I should have been a little more articulate and said the prequels had much more complex choreography, rather than better. Lazy of me. And I absolutely agree, they really do look contrived, rehearsed and choreographed. Some work better than others, but it definitely feels like a dance rather than a duel.

While the Obi Wan/Darth Maul duel from TPM is usually picked as the favorite of the PT duels (for good reason), I have recently taken a liking to the Dooku/Obi and Anakin duel from AOTC (before Yoda shows up). The only thing that ruins that duel for me is the extreme close-up glowfest. But when that part of the duel is removed through editing, the duel has a nice flow to it that is probably as close to an OT duel as the PT can get.

As for the Vader/Luke duel, I don't think anything needs to be changed about it, other than (as I've brought up before) saber burn/glow marks on walls/rails and such. The duel itself is perfectly fine, with the one-handed moves by Vader in the beginning being my favorite part. It really shows his superior skill in contrast to Luke, who has both hands on his saber and looks almost as if he is trying way too hard, rather than getting by on skill alone.

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