STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 299

Darth Venal said:

 

I've just checked my version of Adwan's edit, and it's the Revisited one I think. I like some of the things he's done a lot, they're really great quality. Not sure about some other bits, but if that's his taste, then great. I can't wait to get some of my stuff uploaded to share. I'm about 30% of the way through a long shot (at least 10 seconds) of Alderaan slowly being destroyed, with a few ships trying to flee but being destroyed in the debris. I'm considering showing Bail Organa on one of the ships fleeing. It's partly inspired by the opening scene of Titan AE, except using new mattes of Alderaan (which match the original) and some borrowed (and recoloured) elements from Star Trek Generations. It's coming along really well, so I'll try to post some screenshots ASAP.

 

If you find yourself close to coming up with a full project of your own, start a thread about it you will find you will get a lot of people willing to help if you need it.

Until then you might consider posting some ideas on this thread specifically designed for people who want to continue working on ANH and make other projects from it (Adywan will not be revisiting ANH:R) :

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Can-anything-else-be-done-to-ANH-after-Adywan/topic/10131/

C3PX said:

Hmm, interesting development...

I do hope we don't have another incarnation of the rule of two.

Actually, I am Mr G's friend, but I don't expect him to come back, even if he said he wouldn't leave. We work together in London, although we are on opposite sides of a very big work campus (no further clues! haha), so I'm not sure about the IP address thing.

Looking at those posts, I can see there have been issues. but as I said, I don't want to get involved in any of that at all. Mr G tried to persuade me to come on here and I eventually gave in, but I want to stay out of any bickering. That's why I don't join these things usually.

As I said, I'm doing my own edit, and Mr G is helping me with some technical stuff. It's my project, but I need his technical expertise outside of the actual matte painting and edit choices. Anyway, he's his own person, and I'm mine, so I'd appreciate it if we can leave it like that.

By the way, where is everyone here from? I'm in London.

Darth Venal (nice name, mate) is an excellent matte painter, I hope he does post some of his stuff. He said he actually showed some to Adywan, said Adywan was very impressed. He's just done a matte painting of the Ivory Tower from The Neverending Story, which is incredible.

And no, no alter egos to defend myself. I can do that well enough on my own. And besides, Darth Venal is about the most pacifistic man I've ever known, and would shy away from any conflict. I'd hope those who form my fan club in here can be mature enough to respect that.

I hope so, too. Me no liken fighten.

One question I do want to ask though, I noticed there's a thread called "can anything else be done to ANH after Adywan" or something like that. Now, I know Mr G was balled out for his criticisms (the guy's overworked, he's really not rude) but is that a serious question? Because it sort of implies that some people think nothing else can be done, which seems a bit narrow. No? There are lots of things that could be done. Obviously not all of them would be successful or even desirable, but isn't the only real answer 'yes'?

I hope my Alderaan destruction comes off as well as it's shaping up, because it is definitely something worth doing. Seeing a planet blown up in seconds while never seeing the people who live there isn't very strong dramatically, and I never liked how Lucas pulled it off. The same mistake was made in Star Trek Generations with the Veridian planet, although by coincidence there are some great FX in that scene that will facilitate my Alderaan sequence. I'm also considering showing the Death Star travelling through hyperspace, and bending it because of its size.

I just wish this stuff didn't take so long to do!

I started that thread to counter any misunderstanding that Ady's version was the last word on ANH reworkings (there are a few more on the go now BTW).

It's an ideas thread and if you have ideas feel free to post them there, here isn't the place as it's a thread dedicated to ANH:R and Ady is finished with that project.

If you have a full project on the go start your own thread up.

I take it you have seen this enjoyable confection :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcWBVZIWfCk&feature=related

I will do. Just need to figure out the best stuff to post up.

Thanks!

Thanks C3PX!

We've done some tests for the more ambitious stuff and they're pretty good. I'm really, really pleased with the Alderaan destruction. The idea is to have it begin as normal with the Death Star approaching (and we've even managed to 'cheat' Leia beginning to sense something during this scene) and firing. Then we cut to a reverse angle of the planet, with the Death Star in the background. The beam hits the other side of the planet from our POV, and spreads around, consuming it. As I love the sequence in Generations, I've chosen to just borrow the basic shockwave, colour it to match the DS beam as it engulfs Alderaan, and then the massive planet debris destroy ships which are fleeing towards camera. I might even show the shockwave blasting the surface apart, using an adapted matte from Episode III. The borrowed, animated wave will be altered to match, and all other elements will be new. We might even add the Death Star retreating at speed; after all, at the distance it was sitting, I always wondered why it wasn't damaged. After all, massive as it is, it's nothing compared to a planet, so I want to show it moving off after firing. It's a lot of work for a short sequence, but it will be worth it. I'll try to put some shots together to give you the overall idea of the sequence.

In the beginning of ESB, we see Luke look at a meteroit (after the probe-droid had crashed), and in the comic book version there is mention of meteroits who use to hit the surface. So why don't we see more meteroits? What happened to them? If more meteroits were added during the Hoth scenes, would it be more exciting with even more difficulty for the rebels (of course it would be a problem for the empire as well)?

I'm sure Mr Ghostface will appreciate your comments, Adywan. :-)

From what he said, I think he meant that we should be careful to remember the ethical side of things, as uploading fan edits is still illegal if anyone can download them, as opposed to accusing us all of being criminals, which of course is anyone's intention around here I think.

I was wondering why did you remove the Jabba scene was it really that bad? I mean it was meant to be in the movie from the very beginning just budget made it where they couldn't also they had not fully decided on what Jabba looked like. I enjoy all the changes but that one. But I am sure you have a good reason for it

Scaash said:

I was wondering why did you remove the Jabba scene was it really that bad? I mean it was meant to be in the movie from the very beginning just budget made it where they couldn't also they had not fully decided on what Jabba looked like. I enjoy all the changes but that one. But I am sure you have a good reason for it

It was largely redundant anyway as everything Jabba says Greedo has already said with a better punchline (specifically BANG! ).

I have made the suggestion elsewhere that the scene could possibly be reused if the subtitles were changed to say something new of significance that fitted with Han's replies but you are still stuck with the problem of what to do with that bloody tail.

It might be possible to halt Han let Jabba slither out of the way and then have him move on (it would be really difficult to get that to look right too).

And even after they replaced the awful 1997 CGI model they still got the colour and details wrong, it still doesn't look enough like Jabba from ROTJ.

Addressing all these concerns and finding a way of putting the scene in without interrupting the flow of the movie would be a real bugger.

Double Post, Sorry.

Monroville,

Mr G apologised already and everyone else had moved on from that, so can't you? And if you're going to berate the guy, at least be reasonable. You accuse him of ranting about it for pages, when it's pretty darn clear that he was only defending his position to those that were challenging him. You might not like his position, you don't have to, but he's just as entitled to defend it as you are yours.

Now, can we call move forward? It doesn't look like he's coming back here anyway.