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So does anyone know if there is case art for ROTJ?

The ESB artwork looked kick ass,I hope there is matching art for ROTJ.

 

Nevermind,dumb question,I found it.

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Recently uploaded the Return of the Jedi Blu-Ray. The quality is excellent. For those of you without a Blu-Ray burner but have a PS3 (like me). You can transfer the M2TS file directly to the PS3 with PS3 media server. It's 40 gigs and may take hours, but it's well worth it. The only criticisms I have is that the crossed sabers issue still hasn't been fixed, but that's a limitation of the original source anyway. The colors also still seem a bit off on Vader's saber but everything else looks very very nice. Great work Wookiegroomer!

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It will always remain second best.  Cheaper to produce and cheaper turnaround and everyone these days can shoot video, not just anyone can handle film right though.

It is like those self publishing book deals these days.  Anyone can write a book or screenplay.  Anyone can shoot HD Video.  Even kids and soccer moms have access to the technology, if not on the same high level of quality.  Still it makes it less of an art form and opens movies up to anyone.  And you no longer need film school cause you can just shoot right from anywhere.  Do they even use film anymore in film school why not call it what it is "digital video movie making without any frackin film"

Digital is catching up, though. I like the results I've seen from RED and good old ARRI. Guy Ritchie's Rocknrolla (2008) was shot on an Arri D-20, and I think that one looked pretty good. (The D-20 has a resolution of 2880x2160.) I wouldn't have known it was digital if I hadn't read it by accident. Digital doesn't have to look like Inland Empire or Attack of the Clones anymore, thank god.

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Anyone else finding a sound sync problem with the Jedi bluray?  It starts when the Emperor is zapping Luke but is cleared up by the time the Death Star is destroyed.  It is specifically noticeable at "Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side"  It is the same whether playing the bluray disc on the PS3 or the m2ts file on my computer.  Too bad because it looks great other than this.

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Yes. I have confirmed this. I am so very glad I haven't wasted a very expensive BD-50 on this release of Jedi.

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"Wookie Groomer

"Just delete it and forget about these. I'm ditching the project for good.""

 

Damn what a classy guy.

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Wait, what happened?

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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That's okay. I don't think it's worth putting the time and effort into such a project if all you're going to do is get stressed out and pissed off when people bring up potential issues. Besides, Adywan's versions will be A-Ok! "I'm terribly sorry about this... after all he's only a Wookiegroomer!"

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vbangle said:

Wait, what happened?

I posted the conversation from another forum but decided to delete it. I am not sure if it would be appropriate.

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dark_jedi said:

"Wookie Groomer

"Just delete it and forget about these. I'm ditching the project for good.""

 

Damn what a classy guy.

I think maybe he is starving for some attention.

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I think WG has gone off the deep end. He used to be a very accomodating guy and now he's done a complete 180. Damn shame!!!

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His ANH Bluray is now going up in a.b.starwars. heres the nfo:

Release Date : July 2009
Source       : 1080p Sky Broadcasting/1080p German Premier Caps Hybrid
Frame Rate   : 23.976 fps
Video        : 1920x1080p @ 35,000kbps H.264
Audio        : English AC3 5.1EX
Audio        : English DTS 5.1
Audio        : Isolated Film Score DTS 5.1 @ 1509kbps
Audio        : Isolated Film Score Uncompressed PCM Stereo
Audio        : Audio Commentary -Untouched from Retail R1 DVD
Length       : 124m

Like Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi, Lucas went back and made color adjustments to the Special Edition releases. With Empire he went  blue and A New Hope he went Red. With A New Hope, the bland black and white universe dominated by the Empire had suddenly become more colorful. Some of the scenes were overly hot adding a reddish hue and laserblasts were now a hot pink?!. WTF... I tried to clean up some of those issues. I didn't want to get tied up in some sort or obsessed "restoration" because I am only a little crazy. I tried to "fix" the pink/magenta laser blasts with either red or white depending on what seemed closer to the frame on the original theatrical versions. I didn't do a frame by frame through the entire movie however so I know I missed a few. I wanted to take away the obviousness of them so watching the scenes with a lot of laser blasts you shouldn't really notice anything except the action on the screen- no pink pops. Again, this is NOT an extensive restoration and against popular belief these blurays are NOT "color corrections" I never said they were. They are simple adjustments here and there. No one knows for sure what "correct" even means and should never claim so.

For this release I mainly dialed back on the overall red saturation trying to bring the color tone closer to what appeared natural to me like I did 3 years ago on the original release. I felt the majority of the feature looked pretty good and I did leave a lot of things as is because I liked the punch of color. Even though I had already visited the high def saga back in 2007 with several of these adjustments- this go around is my preferred versions because I went much deeper than before and never quit felt happy, not to mention Han does shoot Greedo first as I have always done. These things seem kind of trivial now since several have imitated this technique over the past couple years but up until now no one has actually threw the bits at it to fully enjoy it all on a real home theater system in a convenient "just hit play" format.

In the audio department I dug up an old laserdisc capture I had laying around and extracted the center channel dialog and pulled out all of Darth Vaders dialog and plopped it into this release. I also replaced the sound Obi-wan made when he first appeared to scare away the Sandpeople.  So basically, these blurays are still the new Special Editions with what should be minimal "transparent" tweaks. And like the rest of this project I am the first to provide a full uncompressed isolated music score that is now becoming a new standard in home brew releases as I see it is now popping up in other posters releases now after the fact.

I have been toying with the idea of seamless branching the prequels on bluray to offer selectable theatrical and extended cut editions using upscaled deleted scenes from the DVD's. But due to current events that may be put on hold indefinitely. Or, to gain popularity I will release the entire saga again and call it "Wookie Groomers Star Wars Saga Redux" and replace all the actors with Lego characters from the video games and add ice cream cones into the space battles with pixie sticks as the laser blasts... Maybe I can find a place for Batman in there too... Oh, I think I'll add a hat to Chewbacca too because Lucas was crazy to not give Chewbacca a hat.

i have to say that this is not the Wookiegroomer i once respected. The bitterness and digs are childish. Wookiegroomer why not just come straight out with it and say who you are taking a dig at. "Wookiegroomers Star Wars Saga Redux"? Redux -Revisited, not tio hard to work out what you are really talking about really now is it? Especially since the last dig at me you gave in your previous blu-ray nfo.

You say that you have never called any of your versions "colour corrected" well maybe you should go back and read what you wrote in my thread when i was first working on my 1080p versions. You stated "What's wrong with my colour corrected versions?" Well as i stated back then they weren't colour corrected at all. All you did was desaturate the movie slightly. Slight delusions of grandeur about the isolated score too WG. You talk as if you were the first to start the isolated score on home brew releases and that everyone is copying you. As you well know this is not the fact.

I love the way you say that you "dug up" an old laserdisc capture you had lying around so you could take the centre channel for vaders voice. Especially strange since you once mentioned that previously available 5.1 versions were just upmixes. I guess with all the bitterness you couldn't bear to say which persons laserdisc 5.1 capture you used for this.

You seem to want to win some sort of imaginary popularity contest and don't like it lately if you're not worshipped by everyone. Why has all this come about? You were once highly respected but that is fading fast with your recent outbursts.

Isn't competition between editors a good thing though? Why slate another editor for doing something in a similar vein, but at the same time being different? If you are doing these just to be popular and for the praise then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. They should always be for you. If you are happy with them then who cares what someone else says because you have achieved what you wanted to do. If you can't take criticism or any form of competition then maybe you should do what you have stated you will do when someone criticized your ROTJ in that it was out of synch and just drop the projects for good. It seems that they are stressing you out and that is not good.

It is a dark time for me  because you was someone that i highly respected and looked up to, but no longer.

 

ANH:REVISITED
ESB:REVISITED

DONATIONS TOWARDS MATERIALS FOR THE REVISITED SAGA

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Hear, hear.

Every 27th customer will get a ball-peen hammer, free!

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I would not worry about this Clown(I used to have a ton of respect for this guy to)at all Ady,I am pretty sure this is going to be riddled with problems(non working menu's,drifting out of sync,etc.) just like the last 2 releases,I really feel sorry for the people that wasted a BD50 for these.

also I thought he said he was going to ditch them LOL.

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Is it true that WG'S Jedi is a total disaster ?, is the sync issues really that bad/noticeable ?. What about WG'S episode 4 has anyone got that yet to confirm if its worth it?

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I absolutely will not be downloading his ANH Blu-ray. After I pointed out the audio sync problem with his Jedi release he told me to just delete the file and he was going to give up on the project. He also has made no mention of fixing the problem. His Empire Blu-ray has non working menue's and to me the colors just don't look right. It almost looks like he removed too much of the blue as the sky backgrounds look terrible. Adywans colors look much beter and don't suffer from this. Who knows what problems his ANH will have. With his attitude lately I am not going to bother with anymore of his Blu-ray releases.  Adywan is doing much better work and he doesn't freek out if one points out a problem with his release.

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BOBA FETT'S WIFE said:

Is it true that WG'S Jedi is a total disaster ?, is the sync issues really that bad/noticeable ?. What about WG'S episode 4 has anyone got that yet to confirm if its worth it?

 

 His Jedi Blu-ray has about 5 minutes where the sound is about 4 1/2 frames off. It happens at the end of the movie during the big scene where the emperor gives up on Luke and decides to destroy him. It totally ruins the scene and so far Wookie Groomer has made no mention of fixing the problem.

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Is Wookiegroomers Empire dead on ? or does it have problems with picture/audio sync ? . I wonder why he never checked his work before posting it online ?. It would almost make you think that it was intentional !!!. Just to back up the attitude he's shown some members on these forums .

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BOBA FETT'S WIFE said:

Is Wookiegroomers Empire dead on ? or does it have problems with picture/audio sync ? . I wonder why he never checked his work before posting it online ?. It would almost make you think that it was intentional !!!. Just to back up the attitude he's shown some members on these forums .

My thoughts exactly.

 

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If WG is actually putting intentionally screwed up works out there for people to download at 40+ gig per movie that is truly a dick move beyond comprehension. Regardless, it's clear that Adywan has always shown much more respect for not only the projects he's working on, but for the people on this forum that follow his work. Perhaps WG is pissed that he used to be idolized around here for providing the SW films in hi-def and now Ady has come along and stolen his thunder. If so, he needs to grow up and get over it.

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If WG is actually putting intentionally screwed up works out there for people to download at 40+ gig per movie that is truly a dick move beyond comprehension. Regardless, it's clear that Adywan has always shown much more respect for not only the projects he's working on, but for the people on this forum that follow his work. Perhaps WG is pissed that he used to be idolized around here for providing the SW films in hi-def and now Ady has come along and stolen his thunder. If so, he needs to grow up and get over it.

 

 His attitude after pointing out the error on his Jedi Blu-ray was the last straw for me. I just don't care anymore. He can keep his Star Wars Blu-rays as I don't want them. I will be following Adywan from now on.

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I am sure some of us here can get together and form our own team to make our own Blu-ray versions of these movies,Hell I have Blu-ray authoring software and ALL the 1080p HD versions of all films,English & German,I just don't have a Blu-ray burner to test them out,but sure would like to try,but I would keep them to a BD25 not an overblown BD50.

 

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dark_jedi said:

I am sure some of us here can get together and form our own team to make our own Blu-ray versions of these movies,Hell I have Blu-ray authoring software and ALL the 1080p HD versions of all films,English & German,I just don't have a Blu-ray burner to test them out,but sure would like to try,but I would keep them to a BD25 not an overblown BD50.

 

Not a bad idea at all.  I have a Blu-ray burner and a supply of BD25s (and BD50s :(!!).  Very happy to help if I can...

 

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I was ready yo mention that shot in ESB:R topic and its bad coloring. Look how good and correct shadows appeared in the 1980 version. With these redish ones looklike is ROTJ at its bad.

 

-Angel

Sorry to change the subject but am I the only one seeing a Hitler moustache on Mark in the 1980 capture?