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Post #371203

Author
adywan
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Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/371203/action/topic#371203
Date created
28-Jul-2009, 1:43 PM

His ANH Bluray is now going up in a.b.starwars. heres the nfo:

Release Date : July 2009
Source       : 1080p Sky Broadcasting/1080p German Premier Caps Hybrid
Frame Rate   : 23.976 fps
Video        : 1920x1080p @ 35,000kbps H.264
Audio        : English AC3 5.1EX
Audio        : English DTS 5.1
Audio        : Isolated Film Score DTS 5.1 @ 1509kbps
Audio        : Isolated Film Score Uncompressed PCM Stereo
Audio        : Audio Commentary -Untouched from Retail R1 DVD
Length       : 124m

Like Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi, Lucas went back and made color adjustments to the Special Edition releases. With Empire he went  blue and A New Hope he went Red. With A New Hope, the bland black and white universe dominated by the Empire had suddenly become more colorful. Some of the scenes were overly hot adding a reddish hue and laserblasts were now a hot pink?!. WTF... I tried to clean up some of those issues. I didn't want to get tied up in some sort or obsessed "restoration" because I am only a little crazy. I tried to "fix" the pink/magenta laser blasts with either red or white depending on what seemed closer to the frame on the original theatrical versions. I didn't do a frame by frame through the entire movie however so I know I missed a few. I wanted to take away the obviousness of them so watching the scenes with a lot of laser blasts you shouldn't really notice anything except the action on the screen- no pink pops. Again, this is NOT an extensive restoration and against popular belief these blurays are NOT "color corrections" I never said they were. They are simple adjustments here and there. No one knows for sure what "correct" even means and should never claim so.

For this release I mainly dialed back on the overall red saturation trying to bring the color tone closer to what appeared natural to me like I did 3 years ago on the original release. I felt the majority of the feature looked pretty good and I did leave a lot of things as is because I liked the punch of color. Even though I had already visited the high def saga back in 2007 with several of these adjustments- this go around is my preferred versions because I went much deeper than before and never quit felt happy, not to mention Han does shoot Greedo first as I have always done. These things seem kind of trivial now since several have imitated this technique over the past couple years but up until now no one has actually threw the bits at it to fully enjoy it all on a real home theater system in a convenient "just hit play" format.

In the audio department I dug up an old laserdisc capture I had laying around and extracted the center channel dialog and pulled out all of Darth Vaders dialog and plopped it into this release. I also replaced the sound Obi-wan made when he first appeared to scare away the Sandpeople.  So basically, these blurays are still the new Special Editions with what should be minimal "transparent" tweaks. And like the rest of this project I am the first to provide a full uncompressed isolated music score that is now becoming a new standard in home brew releases as I see it is now popping up in other posters releases now after the fact.

I have been toying with the idea of seamless branching the prequels on bluray to offer selectable theatrical and extended cut editions using upscaled deleted scenes from the DVD's. But due to current events that may be put on hold indefinitely. Or, to gain popularity I will release the entire saga again and call it "Wookie Groomers Star Wars Saga Redux" and replace all the actors with Lego characters from the video games and add ice cream cones into the space battles with pixie sticks as the laser blasts... Maybe I can find a place for Batman in there too... Oh, I think I'll add a hat to Chewbacca too because Lucas was crazy to not give Chewbacca a hat.

i have to say that this is not the Wookiegroomer i once respected. The bitterness and digs are childish. Wookiegroomer why not just come straight out with it and say who you are taking a dig at. "Wookiegroomers Star Wars Saga Redux"? Redux -Revisited, not tio hard to work out what you are really talking about really now is it? Especially since the last dig at me you gave in your previous blu-ray nfo.

You say that you have never called any of your versions "colour corrected" well maybe you should go back and read what you wrote in my thread when i was first working on my 1080p versions. You stated "What's wrong with my colour corrected versions?" Well as i stated back then they weren't colour corrected at all. All you did was desaturate the movie slightly. Slight delusions of grandeur about the isolated score too WG. You talk as if you were the first to start the isolated score on home brew releases and that everyone is copying you. As you well know this is not the fact.

I love the way you say that you "dug up" an old laserdisc capture you had lying around so you could take the centre channel for vaders voice. Especially strange since you once mentioned that previously available 5.1 versions were just upmixes. I guess with all the bitterness you couldn't bear to say which persons laserdisc 5.1 capture you used for this.

You seem to want to win some sort of imaginary popularity contest and don't like it lately if you're not worshipped by everyone. Why has all this come about? You were once highly respected but that is fading fast with your recent outbursts.

Isn't competition between editors a good thing though? Why slate another editor for doing something in a similar vein, but at the same time being different? If you are doing these just to be popular and for the praise then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. They should always be for you. If you are happy with them then who cares what someone else says because you have achieved what you wanted to do. If you can't take criticism or any form of competition then maybe you should do what you have stated you will do when someone criticized your ROTJ in that it was out of synch and just drop the projects for good. It seems that they are stressing you out and that is not good.

It is a dark time for me  because you was someone that i highly respected and looked up to, but no longer.