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adywan
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
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Date created
24-Jul-2009, 9:15 AM
Mr Ghostface said:

 

Oh, I wasn't offering suggestions for ANH:R, I was just pointing out that it's not all that special and some of the praise Adywan gets for it seems to be borne of an ignorance of how much simpler this is to do than a lot of people realise. And didn't he say that the new CG stuff isn't even his, that another guy did it. I'm not saying this to pull him down; it's more that I feel other editors don't get the same praise when their editing skills are just as good, and some of them are definitely more seamless than Adywan's.

Simple to do? Do you even realise how much work actually went into this? The only way i could get any of the things done was to reuse elements from the rest of the OT saga. If its so simple to just take elements from the movies and add them into new footage then please lets see what you can do, without the use of any CG. please, create a new full motion FX shot, not just static ships, and create a whole new scene, having to trace the outlines of each elements, frame by frame, matching the motion to your new elements &  then tell me how easy it is As has been pointed out to you many shots and elements were re-used throughout the OT and anyone who knows the films would know that. Many FX elements were taken from previous movies. Very evident in the space battle in ROTJ. Cat and pasted ships, a reused X-wing explosion from the trench run in ANH during the core run, many Stardestroyers in ESb were reused from earlier on in the movie, and the list could go on and on. An this is with a multi million dollar FX house doing it. I am just one man working on a home PC in a 1 bedroom flat. How the hell was i supposed to do new elements for the shots i needed? And please don't say CG because that was something i wanted to avoid and only 1 shot in ANH:R was ever done by using CG ships (the TIE approach)

And you are so wrong about the stardestroyer from ESB being noticeable because it has a more blue tint than the ones used in ANH. I guess you've taken that assumption from the 2004 DVds. ESB has more of a blue tint than ANH and actually the stardestroyers in ESB originally had more of a brownish tint to them, whereas the ones originally in ANH were more pure white. The slight blue tint to the ships in the the new opening Death Star sequence was because the scene was taking place over a blue planet, but was changed to a grey planet later in production, but removing the very slight blue tint was kept. And again you are wrong about the planet below being "badly drawn" because it was actually a hi-res photo of earth taken by nasa and desaturated to take away the earth look.

I also never took any credit for the CG TIEs and made it perfectly clear that they were done by someone else and that i only did the background elements for that shot.

You also made the same comment about the added music over at fanedit.org ages ago and someone told you that there was a purist edition out that has none of the added music, but you still come in here and again go on about the same thing.The purist was made for people who discount the PT so no need to tie anything in with the PT while the other version was to be watched as part of a 6 film saga

This edit was only ever originally for me and would never have seen the light of day if i hadn't come in here. i had never done anything like this or had any knowledge of how to do Fx work and never did this to get any form of praise. I did what i was able to do with what i had to work with and i am proud of it.

I'd also like to ask you if you work in the film industry, a film school student/ graduate or have no connections whatsoever