If the Empire aren't bad enough to shoot a few people (even men with Ice Cream makers) while taking over an illegal mining operation after the administrator and his security staff has just helped their commander lose his Emperor's prize (not to mention that feisty Rebel Princess again) then why are the Rebels fighting them at all?
It makes them seem softer than some of our own upstanding defenders of freedom ;-)
sorry to hear about your back adywan. Hope your health improves. :) love all the work so far. take all the time you need. we can wait!
Bingowings said:If the Empire aren't bad enough to shoot a few people (even men with Ice Cream makers) while taking over an illegal mining operation after the administrator and his security staff has just helped their commander lose his Emperor's prize (not to mention that feisty Rebel Princess again) then why are the Rebels fighting them at all?
To be honest, I'm pretty much just thinking that the scene could get a little too busy, and I also think of the motivation. :p I know the Empire likes to flex its muscles, they put the city on lockdown, and Lando says 'leave if you can,' but I still see the scenes playing out like they're there for Luke, then split. I could see them blowing up Cloud City after the Falcon gets away, because Vader is so angry, but before, when they're all concentrated on Luke and the gang, I don't see them purposefully going after random people, even if they're criminals in some way.
Anyway, this is old hat, innit? :p
If anyone has a jones for the idea I've moved onto the wishlist thread, I can see what you mean but the idea could be done with just a few shots but here isn't the place anymore to talk about it because Ady has made his view known.
So yes in terms of this thread it's already rusty helmet stuff.
adywan said:Sevb32 said:Still no news! I'd prefer a bad excuse to....... NO NEWS! ;)
You are really starting to piss me off now Sevb32. You bloody moan and moan that this edit is taking ages to do, then moan some more when i announce that i will be building more models for filming which delays the movie even more, then bloody moan when i haven't posted anything in about a day. Make up your damn mind. do you want me to work on the edit to get it done quicker or have to come in here every day to give you news thus wasting a lot of my time when there would be nothing to say? And now you accuse me of giving bad excuses when i do post. The "dead thread" posts have gone beyond a joke now and that last remark has pushed me beyond my patience. Consider this a polite warning.
Now, because the fund dried up a while ago i was thinking of releasing a new clip but it wouldn't be exclusive just for donaters. Yes, donaters would get to see it a little earlier than everyone else, but it would be released publicly a couple of weeks later. This way everyone gets to see it no matter what.
So sevb32, was it all just hot air from you then? lol
Ok, i'm starting back on ESB:R this weekend now i've finished my theatrical TPM. I needed that break from ESB:R. But, because i have just found out that my back Muscles are deteriorating to the point that walking has now become complete agony after a few minutes (nothing to do with me sitting at the pc hours on end by the way), i will be stuck in the house sitting down, so where better than at my computer or at my work desk building the models instead of just being stuck in front of the telly doing nothing. So i apologise if i come off as a bit aggressive lately. 24/7 pain is not a nice thing to live with
I guess you didn't notice the wink, intention was to get people talking and something going in here than it was to jump on you about anything. No need to get angry, and the dead thread posts are for the same reason, to get people talking. I am sorry to hear about your pain. I hope it gets better. :(
Sevb32 said:adywan said:Sevb32 said:Still no news! I'd prefer a bad excuse to....... NO NEWS! ;)
You are really starting to piss me off now Sevb32...
[I] apologise if i come off as a bit aggressive lately. 24/7 pain is not a nice thing to live with
[My] intention was to get people talking..., and the dead thread posts [were] for the same reason, to get people talking.
I am sorry...
The only thing people talk about, when you do the 'dead thread' thing, is why you keep doing it.
But...I accept your apology. ;)
Hope you feel better soon, Ady. Keep on truckin'.
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Sevb32 said:adywan said:Sevb32 said:Still no news! I'd prefer a bad excuse to....... NO NEWS! ;)
You are really starting to piss me off now Sevb32. You bloody moan and moan that this edit is taking ages to do, then moan some more when i announce that i will be building more models for filming which delays the movie even more, then bloody moan when i haven't posted anything in about a day. Make up your damn mind. do you want me to work on the edit to get it done quicker or have to come in here every day to give you news thus wasting a lot of my time when there would be nothing to say? And now you accuse me of giving bad excuses when i do post. The "dead thread" posts have gone beyond a joke now and that last remark has pushed me beyond my patience. Consider this a polite warning.
Now, because the fund dried up a while ago i was thinking of releasing a new clip but it wouldn't be exclusive just for donaters. Yes, donaters would get to see it a little earlier than everyone else, but it would be released publicly a couple of weeks later. This way everyone gets to see it no matter what.
So sevb32, was it all just hot air from you then? lol
Ok, i'm starting back on ESB:R this weekend now i've finished my theatrical TPM. I needed that break from ESB:R. But, because i have just found out that my back Muscles are deteriorating to the point that walking has now become complete agony after a few minutes (nothing to do with me sitting at the pc hours on end by the way), i will be stuck in the house sitting down, so where better than at my computer or at my work desk building the models instead of just being stuck in front of the telly doing nothing. So i apologise if i come off as a bit aggressive lately. 24/7 pain is not a nice thing to live with
I guess you didn't notice the wink, intention was to get people talking and something going in here than it was to jump on you about anything. No need to get angry, and the dead thread posts are for the same reason, to get people talking. I am sorry to hear about your pain. I hope it gets better. :(
apology accepted, captain sevb32 :)
Wow, sorry to hear about your back, Ady - I've got scoliosis myself, so I know back-related health problems are no picnic, and that seems doubly so in your case. Here's hoping you feel better soon!
And if you need to take time off of ESB:R for it, I don't think any one of us (besides Sevb32, perhaps) will fault you for it. Your health is far more important than Star Wars.
I guess Star Wars is bad for the back because I too have had problems. This is the first time it has felt decent in a while. Ady just don't force your back to pop. I went to a clinic with my dad when he had a bad back and they said that is the biggest mistake people make. I used to lean back in a chair to pop mine and I still had pain.Take a HOT bath with Epsom salt for a good week. And also sleeping on your stomach for a week or 2 might help. Don't put pressure on that back.
There is also an excersise I learned in ROTC that helps it quite a bit.
lay on the floor (carpet would be very good.)
wrap your hands around your knees and roll back and forth. It should releive it quite a bit. Only do it if it is regular back pain. If it is spinal problems I would see a doctor if possible.
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adywan said:24/7 pain is not a nice thing to live with
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Sorry to hear about the back, Ady. Will the medical-decision-making-powers-that-be in the UK finally decide they can get you the help you need now? That system sounds like a nightmare to me.
Also glad you've made a return to ESB:R. I'll have to look into your theatrical TPM, though that movie is indeed cringe-worthy to me at this point in my life. 10 years ago was another story....
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How about one new still from Revisited per month? Pretty please? It would get us something to look forward to every 4 weeks, and have it about the same date every month, that would just be 12 more stills over the next year, obviously. Please and thank you! :)
Sevb32 said:How about one new still from Revisited per month? Pretty please? It would get us something to look forward to every 4 weeks, and have it about the same date every month, that would just be 12 more stills over the next year, obviously. Please and thank you! :)
I like this idea better than seeing more clips. I'd like to save the rest for the actual viewing experience when ESB:R is finally done and released!
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EyeShotFirst said:I guess Star Wars is bad for the back because I too have had problems.
I can be bad for TVs as well. I was once playing The Empire Strikes Back for the NES on my old 13" (or so) black and white Sony. I believe I was ont he snowspeeder level when I started to smell something funny. Then I heard crackling and the screen when dead, accompanied by a bunch of white smoke. Oh well... :p
oh_riginal said:Sevb32 said:How about one new still from Revisited per month? Pretty please? It would get us something to look forward to every 4 weeks, and have it about the same date every month, that would just be 12 more stills over the next year, obviously. Please and thank you! :)
I like this idea better than seeing more clips. I'd like to save the rest for the actual viewing experience when ESB:R is finally done and released!
I kinda like it and kinda don't. I agree that we've seen enough "new stuff," so all that's left is color-correction screenshots. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't want him to go out of his way for that.
Sorry to hear about your back ady... what exactly is the problem/ailment you're dealing with? What's the prognosis?
As for further funds, if I can get the OK from the wife, I'll send you another small donation (although with house renovations set to start shortly, I'm not sure how understanding she'll be). Chicks... they just can't see the really important things in life... like ESB:R :)
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Well just take it easy ady. I can't.....we can't affored to lose you :] And about the star destroyer thing in bespin, it seems to me some of you tred the path of lucas, adding something unnecessary, all for, wow that's cool looking (but irrelevant and unneeded); but the subject should die an honorable death *cuts of head* And would not mind a screenshot once in a while, maybe randomly.
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Sorry to hear about your pain Ady, hope you'll be able to find some relief working on models or the computer, but please don't stress yourself, take your time.
Though it would be nice to see some screenshots, I am more excitin about watch behind the scenes.
The star destroyer thing would be great to see on the screen but as someone said it would just be eye candy at the end of the day. Just think you need a quick clip of maybe a couple of stormtroopers raising there guns in bespin of see a couple of tie fighters flying through that clip of the people around bespin just without laser bolts hittin things, isnt needed i think. Need something subtle really. To be honest I dont mind if nothing is really changed in that scene purely because we know whats going on, we just dont see it on a big scale.
So guys what left on the list that Adywan hasnt changed yet that we can discuss?
Here's another minor detail that bothers me in ESB:
IG-88 is a pretty cool looking droid/bounty hunter. His appearance is brief, but cool nonetheless. I'm sure some of you agree? While the head is a reused part from ANH (from the cantina), it doesn't take anything away from the look of the character.
However, an identical droid can be seen (for the sake of avoiding the EU, I would assume it is a different droid but same model) in the background of the scene when Chewie is trying to rescue C-3PO's parts from the Ugnaughts. The problem with this identical droid is the color, or shall I say LACK OF COLOR on it. It is totally obvious that it is an unpainted IG-88 that was placed there as a prop. The IG-88 seen in the bounty hunter lineup looks metallic, as a droid should. But without the paint job, the droid seen on Cloud City looks like a big plastic model, and nothing more!
The droid itself doesn't move in any of the shots, so I think it might not be too difficult to color it a metallic color to match up with IG-88, instead of looking like an Ugnaught's lifesize plastic replica of IG-88 (collect them all!)
Not a big deal? Perhaps. But it is one of those things that has bothered me every time I see it, ever since I first noticed it (I'm talking YEARS now).
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I suppose as background 'salute' to ANH:R detractors the IG-88 could be replaced with a Imperial Torture droid with a burnt out electro-needle ;-)
Or less contentiously with a more anonymous piece of junk.
Some people like it being there as it could suggest some kind of hidden back story.
Personally I think it's a slightly less annoying manifestation of the same stage dressing laziness that put FX-7 and 21B in the Rebel briefing scene in ROTJ.
They built something so they wanted to get mileage out of the prop regardless of logic.
I've never had a problem with the different coloured IG-88 droid being there. It actually has been painted as you can see different shades and weathering on it. All droids don't look metallic. Just look at the beginning of the movie , we have a white protocol droid that isn't metallic. so i won't be doing anything here..... or will i? lol
has anyone noticed that in the final shot of that scene smack bang in the bottom middle of the frame is a recoloured set piece from the Tantive IV? And one of the droids from the jawas garage sale is in there too & in the first shot you can see 4-LOM with a different body
adywan said:
has anyone noticed that in the final shot of that scene smack bang in the bottom middle of the frame is a recoloured set piece from the Tantive IV?
Wow, I never noticed this, lol.
Thanks for pointing it out Ady :) Hope you get well soon and are taking things easy, I know what it's like sitting on a computer screen for long periods of time.
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It kind of makes sense that a general purpose droid like a Treadwell would be junked in an industrial community like Cloud City (there would be lots of them and eventually they would wear down beyond the point of economically viable repair).
Equally a place like Cloud City would get alot of visitors who's ships may need repairing and having a starship wall panel recycled sort of fits.
But it's a bit odd that they would have a couple of battle droids there (it's not an military site, it's not a bounty hunter's den like Jabba's Palace, a good case could be made for swapping some of the droids in EV-9D9's torture chamber for the battle droids here).
As I said before it's not as annoying as seeing the medical droids sitting in on the Rebel Briefing but it does feel a bit odd.
I suppose it could be argued that the IG droid and the 4-LOM looky-likey aren't battle droids and the the bounty hunters just modified a pre-existing model to serve their purposes.
And as the IG series are only identified as specifically built battledroids in the EU I guess it's easy to rationalise it in those terms.
IG-88 does look like a hard arsed piece of military kit though (much more than the battledroids in the PT do), I can't really visualise it cutting lawns or cleaning windows.
It's only really a concern for people who have seen the film so many times that they notice stuff like this.
Bingowings said:IG-88 does look like a hard arsed piece of military kit though (much more than the battledroids in the PT do), I can't really visualise it cutting lawns or cleaning windows.
It's only really a concern for people who have seen the film so many times that they notice stuff like this.
Guilty! It's a trade-off I have to live with. Oh well.
But yeah, I don't really have a problem with some droids looking less metallic, but the IG-88 models do LOOK like they are made to do more physical things then mopping floors or interpreting languages, so it just seems like it should look more durable than it does currently.
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