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Post #369487

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skyjedi2005
Parent topic
Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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Date created
13-Jul-2009, 5:04 PM
doubleofive said:
Dunedain said:

They can always re-scan the source at 4k or 6k. :) With an HD camera, you're stuck with HD because that's what you shot the movie at.

You could rescan the source, but you would have to redo all of the effects if the digital intermediate was 1080p.

 

I though the effects were usually upscaled from 2k to 4k, or was that just the case on spider man 2?

How do they deal with films with cgi on blu ray in the first place.  They must have to upscale the effects or they remain at 2k.  The film footage would then look way better than the effects.  What the hell is the purpose of doing cgi if it is not future proof like effects created on film?

Digital should be used in its proper context as a tool to augment film and do shots that you could do no other way, it should not be used to replace film.  It will always remain second best.  Cheaper to produce and cheaper turnaround and everyone these days can shoot video, not just anyone can handle film right though.

It is like those self publishing book deals these days.  Anyone can write a book or screenplay.  Anyone can shoot HD Video.  Even kids and soccer moms have access to the technology, if not on the same high level of quality.  Still it makes it less of an art form and opens movies up to anyone.  And you no longer need film school cause you can just shoot right from anywhere.  Do they even use film anymore in film school why not call it what it is "digital video movie making without any frackin film"

There were actually respected cinematographers who worked on the original star wars and indiana jones trilogies.  They were true artists and craftsmen. 

Yes indy IV was shot on film but the cinema style does not match Douglas Slocombe's like they promised it would and there  is way too much cgi where practical stuntwork and models, and matte paintings would have done fine.

David Tatterstall has done tons of work outside of star wars, i don't understand why he could not have done a better job.  and no cinematographer worth his salt would have shot on HD Video for clones and sith, period,  They would have turned the job down as it is a disgrace to ones own craft to aim lower.

Things might change if those red cameras are adopted that can do film resolution and over supposedly, i wonder if we would have gotten to this point without lucas pushing the technology. 

But he certainly got on the bandwagon quite a few years short of the goal of film quality in an easier to manipulate form like video.

It is truly sad that most movies and films these days look like videogames than films.  CGI has overtaken everything including good storytellling and acting.  Most movies look like hyped up cartoons for crying out loud.

There are sometimes exceptions but these cases are few and far between.  Idiocy and in your face cgi action sellls to the mainstream who are dumbed down on bad reality shows.    But this is the age of bad popcorn movies and the blame mainly lies at spielberg and lucas feet.