Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 108

Monroville said:

Personally, I can go either way.  JEDI is just so damn goofy I don't know what you can do with it.

If you wanted it to be more serious, you would have to do a HELL of a lot more than just wack Lando, of which we've talked about:

(1) more native-esque, VC-ish Ewoks, with some storm trooper limbs getting tossed into the air during the dogpile scenes, as well as showing the Ewoks ability for digging tunnels with claws or tools; have more pit-related traps that the Imps wouldn't see coming (like logs on top of a cleared hill in an otherwise dense forest)

(2) a stronger voice for Vader with maybe some lines from EMPIRE to help him come across as a stronger character (or at least as the SAME character as what we saw in EMPIRE)

(3) if we have the whole corelation between Luke's mech arm and Vader's mech arm, I would still like to see Luke tearing off peices of machinery and throwing them at Vader during the final fight ala what Vader did at Bespin to show just how close Luke is to turning to the Dark Side, much less give a reason as to Vader taking a dive like he does.  I have NEVER bought that whole bit where Prowse damn near "knees the ball for a safety" and allows Mark to whack away at his arm and that is somehow supposed to convince me that Luke had the powa to overthrow Vader.

(4) being that the original intention before Lucas "prequelized" JEDI was to kill a main character, I know these edits are primarily for Ady, being that he is doing all the hard work, but it would still be nice to see what Kurtz and those others who seemed to take all of this more seriously than Lucas had in mind.

Regardless, if you wanted to keep it more or less the same, that would mean less editing and altering.. but then what is the point?  Ady can redo the space battle to make it more exciting and a little more serious, but if the ewoks are still a joke and Darth Vader is still a lame lackie, it's still going to be the same "prequel before the prequels" JEDI.

Even more regardless, this is a good 3 to 5 years off, so we'll have plenty of time to banter until then....

It would make sense keep posting the radical changes here seeing as there have been so many suggested here already.

And move the more basic stuff over to the inevitable ROTJ:R thread when it eventually pops up.

It would seem from Ady's post that his edit won't be going down the sort of route that the fan-o-matic suggested either.

So it looks like we will have to look elsewhere for a major story re-jig but it does mean somewhere down the line when Ady has finished his version their will be a better looking version to re-shuffle and who knows what talent and technology will be around in that exciting space year.

There again this latest update might be yet another joke at our expense and his final version might more out there than even our most bizarre suggestions.

Monroville said:

(2) a stronger voice for Vader with maybe some lines from EMPIRE to help him come across as a stronger character (or at least as the SAME character as what we saw in EMPIRE)

now that i think of this, it somewat reminds me of him and padme, only its his son. vader became a real p988y at the end of both trilogies.

That flows so much better Dave.

something about the look of Endor is really unappealing, It looks low-res or something. Perhaps someone could create some more detailed Endor mattes?

It might be fun if the walls of the reactor chamber were to spin making the whole chamber part of the reactor rather than just the giant chalice thing in the middle (like being inside an enormous turbine).

It would add an extra obstacle to escaping the chamber too if the Falcon and the X-wing had to line up with the gap they entered through.

with all the obstacles they go through, i hope ady adds a rebel ship hitting an obstacle instead of seeing the one just get shot

That reminds me of the sort of chaos that the ships in nuGalactica cause when they let rip.

My only problem with that is could the Rebel fleet survive "Firepower of that magnitude"?

I'm still Jonesing for my Piett has enough scenerio.

Imagine him pointing that sort of firepower at the Death Star as he bravely rams the station to defend his fleet.

That's the sort of change this film needs, correcting the colour is one thing (important as it is) but giving the story a fitting conclusion with surprises is the only way to lift this movie into the epic scale to match the two films that preceded it.

Remember when George dissed Godzilla by saying "Story Matters" ?

Big words from the PT guy, that's something that needs to come through in a major re-working, especially in ROTJ as it is more easy to salvage than the PT.

EyeShotFirst said:

why dont they use debris to their advantage in this movie. All these ships exploding should send shrapnel (please tell me thats how you spell it) to other ships causing problems. I hope adywan makes the Rebel and Imperial fleets more epic in size too.

That is how we spell it :-D

The opening of ROTJ sums up everything that's wrong about the film, it's a pointless rehash of the opening of ANH (pointless because without the battle the scale of the ship no longer demonstrates the strength of the Empire) and they cut away before the sweep is finished.

The object that should represent the might of the Empire (the Death Star) looks so tiny and fragile.

A better opening would be to trump the Executor reveal in ESB.

Show the Executor arriving to drop off Vader with support ships and then have it suddenly dwarfed by the huge scale of a gigantic Death Star (with lots of building activity) popping into view as the camera pans down.

That way you get a sense of progression.

ANH shows how big a Star Destroyer is.

ESB shows how big the Executor is in scale with the Star Destroyer.

ROTJ shows how big the Death Star is in scale with the Executor.

Something like (only better and possibly from the other side which would mean a new model would have to be built or matte painted) :

It might be even better if we got a similar reveal to the battle of Coruscant in ROTS.

A few TIE fighters, down to a Star Destroyer which moves to one side revealing the even bigger Executor, which moves to one side to reveal the top of the Death Star 2 which fills most of the screen.

A series of reveals by unblocking.

vaderios said:

YES YES!

fuck mind blowing :P

 

-Angel

Go on then, show us how it's done.