Indy BluRay pushed off til 2010, what does that mean for SW? — Page 3

George probably did it without Mr. Spielberg seeing - from what I understand, good ole George wanted those movies to get a special edition too.

I'll have to check, but I thought that shot started like the first capture then panned down with the jeep. Maybe its just me.

I saw the new cgi shot on tv and was pissed.  It lasts for a second and even i noticed the change the first time i saw it.

This aired on cable television on standard definition and high definition.  1080i ?

I have seen comparisons of the non cleaned up theatrical raiders in HD versus the Lowry.  The lowry one has none of the flaws, but the new cgi shot,lol.

Which was not on even the latest dvd's.  Methinks this is the version to be on blu ray.

Whats next the arab guy with a sword swings and misses before Indy shoots him.   Indy's gun replaced with a walkie talkie, or better yet a cgi whip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Hat

Actually, the sword is really a lazer gun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQBLTB5f3j0&feature=channel_page

Maybe if it was Spielberg before he did the absolute terrible films War of the Worlds and Crystal Skull.

After those 2 disasters it would take a lot to get me to see one of his films again.

Fincher no way, the first rule of sith club is not to talk about sith club,lol.

Johnston would at least understand star wars from a design standpoint but i'm not to sure of him.

Jumanji an awful movie.  Rocketeer underated serial adventure.  JP 3 better than 2 but not exactly anything to give high praise to either.

Darabount?

Obviously you did not read his script which is worse than the final film of crystal skull.  Or see that awful movie he made based on that stephen king book starring the punisher,lol.  I consider Shawshank to be a happy accident.  Never again did he make a movie that great.  It is like M Knight the only good film he made was the sixth sense, or michael bay's the rock.

He did good writing on Young Indy perhaps it was the outline given to him by Lucas that dictated the horrible crap in the script.

The one good line in the script is borrowed from Kasden and is just a reversal "Its not the mileage honey its the years" Instead of "Its not the years its the mileage."

If they were going to ape Kasden's writing why not give him the script to write, george could have asked him as a favor.

Sadly i think if i'm not mistaken The Last Crusade writer passed away.  He wrote the last good indy film.  Jeffrey Boam. Temple of doom was awful.  Written by the people who also wrote howard the duck.

Somehow before that the huycks were able to write good lines and dialogue for star wars and american graffiti.  Everything after including Radioland Murders was awful.

Actually they are my opinions and those Fincher movies are all killing movies and not even close to star wars material.  You think you would actually look for people who work in that genre style.

The green mile was so so, only good because it was faithful to the book.

The mist was the biggest peice of b movie garbage based on king i have seen since the telemovies based on his books.  They made up a suicide ending not in the book, and overly played up the anti christian message.

The dude murders his son.  To save him from some tentacle aliens,lol.

Majestic was that the Jim Carrey movie sorry never bought him as a serious actor, he is a comedian not an actor.  Whatever the hell people have to say about the Truman show, overated garbage.

That and he was a lot more funny years ago.

Lets see Darabount make a film based on an original story he writes and creates and then we can talk about how great he is.   As is KING was heavily involved with Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption as far as i have read and heard.

Adapting someone else's stuff may be his forte.  But you really cannot compare him to the George Lucas of yesteryear who created his own secondary universe.

There are not too many writers in book fiction who create such an elaborate imaginary world, except for perhaps J.R.R. Tolkien, Edgar Rice Burroughs, etc.

I liked Minority report despite tom cruise, i liked a.i despite its flaws.  I also Liked Private Ryan.  The more serious types of films are really not the spielberg i like.  I like close encounters, e.t. and jaws, and raiders and last crusade.

1941 awful film, hook awful film, so was amistad, catch me if you can, war of the worlds, indiana jones temple of doom and crystal skull, munich awful film. JPII awful as well.  As far as i'm concerned spielberg in my opinion has as many bad movies as lucas if not more, or like francis coppola or martin scorcese have made so many movie there are plenty of gooseeggs.

Shindler's List is brilliant but i won't watch it more than the 1 time i was sujected to it, i see enough evil in man every day and read so much of it in school it makes me sick to my stomache.

Indiana Jones IV literally destroyed the franchise just like the star wars prequels.  I could care less to how many billions they have made combined.  There are complete and utter shit for the masses.

Spielberg and Lucas once made brilliant and entertaining films with heart, and a soul.  Entertaining Fantasies for the minds eye.  Since then they have destroyed their legacy by either doing too many serious boring films spielberg that tell us how terrible humanity is, or lucas crap all over previous works with retarded over the top humor and cgi.

Spielberg as Auteur filmakers and directors with a singular vision can make the kind of films they want to.  Does not mean i have to pay to see them if i'm not thrilled by the fictional stories, the acting, effects etc.

In my opinion Films in the seventies and eighties were better because they focused more on the characters than the cgi.  There are some exceptions, like some of the comic book movies.  Really though i would be lying if i did'nt betray me bias to science fiction and fantasy films and space opera.

There are a lot of crappy low budget murdering people movies and horror movies that are grabage that hollywood makes regularly.  Does not mean i have to subject myself to them, even though i love action films.

Sometimes Violence makes sense to the story, but hollywood is on a gore porn trend and has made tons of money parading the works of real serial killers and those imagined.

I always found it baffling that people get some sick grattifcation out of watching people being murdered, real or no real you have to wonder they twisted pyches of some of those people.

Just like they have immortalized criminals and mudererors in mob films.

I am not for censorship at all period.  But to me there is a fine line between what is entertainment and what crosses the line.

I'm not even going to waste my time debating my own viewing tastes.  I can spend money on what i like and not on stuff i hate.  If movie series become a self parody like the star wars prequels or indiana jones IV it is time to hang up indys fedora and whip and for the jedi to stow their lightsabers. 

Anything else is just making a movie just for the sake of money if it betrays the legacy and magic of the previous films by not taking the material seriously and going into camp/parody territory.  I mean if they have to copy every other ripoff since they are running out of ideas Spieleberg and ford should have known better.  Who wants a mockery of indiana jones playing as national treasure or worse yet a mummy brendan fraser movie.

Once you don't take the material seriously you end up with a farce like 1980's Flash Gordon.  Rather than the original star wars trilogy that played the material straight even with the humor in its proper place.

Richard Marquand was totally right about that when he talked about Willing Suspension of disbelief. 

Lucas and spielberg themselves if you read the story conference on raiders, despite being an action film and somewhat jokey serial wanted the character to be believable.  Sometime down the road i think Temple of Doom they decided bad jokes anc camp were the way to go.  There were plenty of these awful moments in return of the jedi and the last crusade but there were also enough good parts to just hang im there to see the story unfold.

Spielberg Lucas and Everyone involved Including John Williams in my opinion phoned it in for crystal skull. Nobody looks more wise for turning that turkey of a movie down than Sean Connery.

Spielberg phones in indy IV and suddenly he takes a 2 year hiatus from directing as if the movie was hard to do or something, or took the wind out of his sails.  I've been waiting years and years for Lincoln where is it?

Anyway it will probably be some Liberal garbage retelling of history anyway, why should i bother.

I mean if Lucas and Spielberg are so poltically minded that they ruin their films by taking potshots at the Republicans, they should be politicians.  Or get off their fucking Soapbox and entertain me like they used to.

I am not pro republican either.  But Poltics garbage does not belong in films like star wars and indiana jones.

The originals were not so out there as to ruin their entertainment value.

AND what wonderful movies he produced Transformers 1 and 2.  And he said they were great films.  His taste went bye bye years ago.  If garbage cgi popcorn shit movies now pass where films like jaws, close encounters, e.t. and raiders were on the screen previously.  Remember when he produced a good movie called back to the future,lol.

And he has always been able to distance himself from travesties or remove his name.  Like Seaquest and Earth 2 tv series.  Notice how he never talks about that horrendously bad amazing stories series. Or the dissater that was the twilight zone movie.

Well at least he had the common sense not to do young indy, he gets much props for that.

People like Bay should never be allowed to direct a movie.  Did'nt he work at ILM? 

Special Effects artists are not well known for making films with a story and character development.  You can clearly see the pyro technics and cgi overblown.

I am looking forward to Del Toro's Hobbit films PJ is producing. And any other films he might make he is a director to watch.

Spielberg could still redeem himself if Lincoln and Tintin are awesome films.

Want to see James Camerons Avatar, wish he had done T3 and t4 instead of that decraprio sinking boat movie.

Can't wait for any Movie that Christopher Nolan does especially a sequel to the dark knight.  Eagerly awaiting the hulk sequel and iron man sequel.

Watching the developments on the superman and fantastoc four reboots.

Captain America might be good or really bad, Joe Johnston is hit or miss.  But he can certainly bring a film in on budget and has a wonderful design sense.  Ralph Mcquarrie gets a lot of the credit, but Joe is as important imho to the creation of the old star wars trilogy.

Good god thank someone he had very little to do with the prequels. Doug Chiang and Ryan Church designs are far too modern and set in an earlier timeframe so its makes zero sense.

I am totally against folks recasting the x-men as younger actors prequel, there just copying jj abrams.

Sounds like the studio again wants younger cheaper actors.  A bit like throwing Pierce Brosnan under a bus for the much inferior in my opinion daniel craig as james bourne, i mean bond.

Won't see Spider man IV or V after the dissaster that was III.

And i Just wish Brett Ratners X-3 would be thrown aside and Let Singer give his version of the third movie.

Instead we got a mediocre third x-men and superman instead of a good x-men film.

I am also wondering if the remake of clash of the titans will be as much as a abomination as remakes like planet of the apes, time machine or war of the worlds. 

The New Robocop is totally unesscesarry as is a reboot of conan the barbarian.

If the Arnold Sequel could not have been made they were planing to do for years let it be.  Who will play him now some fake wrestling star like the rock?

I now this is totally off topic as is this whole post.  But that Gi Joe movie is even worse than the transfromers films.  It has stupid excellerator suits, some green colored gas that melts the eiffel tower like its made out of sand, and a wayans brother.  That is almost as bad as a wayans brother almost playing robin in the second batman movie batman returns, awful idea.

And why must every remake Tim Burtons makes ruin the original books or movies they are based on.  Willy Wonka was an absolute disgrace, and Alice in Wonderland looks more like a live action pumkinhead nightmare before christmas movie, alice in wonderland is not supposed to be a trippy horror movie,lol.

I'm a fan of Avatar the anime. Which is saying something, because I typically don't watch anime. It's hard to judge from the trailer of the live-action adaptation, but I can say that the Fire Nation ships looked awesome.

But... Avatar's not anime...

Gaffer Tape said:

But... Avatar's not anime...

Star Trek isn't science fiction.

o_O

ChainsawAsh said:

DarkFather, they changed the name of M. Night Shyamalan's movie based on the Avatar anime - it's now called The Last Airbender.  The Avatar they're talking about is James Cameron's new 3-D sci-fi movie.

Well that's messed up. Avatar and The Last Airbender.

Avatar the last airbender is so incredibly superior to the clone wars that i am suprised filoni had anything to do with airbender.

Most of season 1 of clone wars was okay but the ending with this Cad Bane boba fett ripoff with a bad accent totally changed my opinion on tuning in for season 2.

It was nice to read matt lanter saying he and his costar were trying to match Han Solo and Princess Leia of the originals than the prequels.

Still clone wars might be a slight improvement over the prequels, but in my opinion Lucas has way too much of a hand in things and way too much control.  I liked the genddy series because he stepped backed and allowed them to do their own thing, funny how that dvd is now permanently out of print because genndy did something Kershner did better star wars than george lucas, which is not allowed.

I really hope Mr Lucas daughter turns out a better writer than he is, because if not the future of clone wars is indeed very grim.

There is not a thing that cannot be destroyed to fit the prequels anymore.   They ruined the EU novels, the games etc.

To me i almost put the cut off point for star wars in 1996, before the laughably bad shadows of the empire and the special editions, and before the ruination of star wars in 1999.  1999 was also the year of vector prime when they destroyed the star wars EU in the first book by Killing Chewbacca.

There has been some good star wars fiction since then. I liked Shatter point, and revenge of the sith by stover, and dark lord.

In fact a lot of the tie in writers for the EU write so much better than Lucas it is almost a shame they were writing for the EU universe that does not exist as far as Lucas is concerned.

To this day i don't understand how a self described terrible writer allowed himself to write the 3 screenplays to the prequels.  The same guy who says he hates character and plot and likes to do purely visual films.

The strength of the prequels was in the visuals, but the non devloped characters and non existant plot made me not care in the end.  Six Hours of explosions, lasersword duels and cgi do not a good human story make.

I don't hate the prequels i just wish the characters were more fully developed than cardboard cutout archetypes.

They tried adding a soul to the visuals by having willaims compose some wonderful music.  But Even he this time could not save the films. 

I wish the effects were secondary to the human story.  But Lucas made the focus on what he considers his strongest abilties. I can only blame him for not hiring a different director for both attack of the clones and revenge of the sith and some other writers to help flesh out the skeleton plot.

To me you have only half a movie with the prequels, you have the effects music and sound effects, but the actors are either under used or ill used.  The human story of the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker the greatest jedi of his generation takes a back seat to the action.

Lucas had some truly great and epic ideas to use.  A lot of them were under used or underplayed or left in tne background or up to the tie in fiction writers to flesh out. 

He talked about the story of faust and miltons paradise lost on the 60 minutes interview, and when i saw revenge of the sith i missed the echo of these great literary works.  Because the turn was botched and made zero logical sense.  

I also wish a female writer could have helped Lucas on clones and sith to flesh out the character of padme, in clones and sith her character is ruined as much as anakins is.  I much prefer the phantom menace which at last focused on the characters.  What happened in 2 and 3, did lucas forget or something?