GOUT image stabilization - Released — Page 23

Author: bkev
Time: 22-Jun-2009 11:56 AM (Edited)
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This has been detailed in the official screenshots thread. It almost appears as though they blurred the GOUT some; note R2 in this shot.

PAL gout resized to NTSC. Compare to...

Moth3r PAL, also resized.

While the GOUT IMO has a slight upper hand, the bottom left corner of R2 - what do we have here? These odd notches seem to have been blurred together on the GOUT, whereas they are not on moth3r's transfer.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

Author: Oldschooljedi
Time: 22-Jun-2009 12:01 PM
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Yes, this shows exactly what I mean.

Author: g-force
Time: 22-Jun-2009 2:11 PM
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Moth3r said:
In line 60, should the "Nop()" be replaced with a "last"?

Indeed, it should. Oops! I'll update the script on the first page.

Thanks Moth3r!

Author: Mielr
Time: 22-Jun-2009 6:07 PM
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bkev said:
This has been detailed in the official screenshots thread. It almost appears as though they blurred the GOUT some; note R2 in this shot.

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PAL gout resized to NTSC. Compare to...

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Moth3r PAL, also resized.

While the GOUT IMO has a slight upper hand, the bottom left corner of R2 - what do we have here? These odd notches seem to have been blurred together on the GOUT, whereas they are not on moth3r's transfer.

Maybe I missed something (not unusual for me, LOL) but why would you use the PAL Gout when the NTSC Gout is superior quality? (due to the fact that the PAL Gout wasn't sourced from a PAL master, and had to be converted from NTSC).

Author: Oldschooljedi
Time: 23-Jun-2009 4:25 AM
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I simply bought my DVD's in a store and I live in a PAL country.

Yes, the NTSC GOUT has a slightly better picture quality. When I compared the processed example movies from the NTSC DVD here they looked quite similar to the results I've gotten from the PAL DVDs. So I decided not to order them a second time from the US.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 23-Jun-2009 12:05 PM (Edited)
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Here are the last samples for ESB,I will start the lossless avi soon,then all will be done,FINALLY LOL.

ESB sample Asteroid.rar
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uugrpa

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ESB sample Dagobah.rar
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w273fc

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 23-Jun-2009 12:07 PM
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ESB sample Hoth.rar
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5d4mw3

Author: ChainsawAsh
Time: 23-Jun-2009 7:57 PM
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It's looking pretty good. I'll echo the sentiment that others have said - it's a bit too over-saturated IMO. In particular, the scene in the asteroid field - all the in-cockpit shots just look a little "overcooked," specifically in saturation, but overall and in general as well. It just feels like it's over-filtered.

I'd say ease up on the saturation and sharpening filters, and you'll have a damn fine product on your hands :-)

Author: Doctor M
Time: 23-Jun-2009 11:58 PM (Edited)
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I dunno. I've always remembered the colors as being particularly vibrant in theaters (originally).

When I made my preservation set, I tweaked the saturation based on some of the 'final' screenshots posted by the X0 project (since they had access to better materials for color matching). The colors used by X0 were fairly bright.

Edit: Btw, played around with DeBand filters the other day (on a different project). GradFun2DBMod yielded nice results when previewed, but caused an error with CCE. GradFunkMirror's results looked almost exactly the same, but without CCE problems.

I'd really recommend you all give it a try. It does some nice things for making banded video look less cartoony.

That's assuming the banding issue still exists.

Now if we could just figure a way to kill the temporal smoothing.

Dr. M

Author: g-force
Time: 24-Jun-2009 9:54 PM
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Looks great to me DJ!

-G

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 24-Jun-2009 11:18 PM
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Thanks g-force I am trying,and I have just added for shits and giggles GradFun2DBMod v1.3 filter for all of us to see how it looks,attached are the usual images and sample video clip,thoughts?

ESB GForce GradFun test.rar
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6bt3wm

I have to admit Vader looks damn good,I also want you guys to know that when I do these encoded sample clips,they are at 6000 avg and CCE SP 6 pass,in case anyone was wondering.

Author: joebshmoe
Time: 25-Jun-2009 1:26 AM
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looks damn good. ...so you are going to do DL discs i presume.

Author: Doctor M
Time: 25-Jun-2009 1:53 AM
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I wouldn't mind seeing before/after debanding filter screenshots.

Dr. M

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 9:39 AM
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Here are some before\after shots of the above Hoth scene clip:

without

GradFun2DBmod

without

GradFun2DBmod

without

GradFun2DBmod

extra with GradFun2DBmod

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 9:42 AM
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joebshmoe said:
looks damn good. ...so you are going to do DL discs i presume.

Yes I am,to me this has to be DL.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 12:39 PM (Edited)
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Not sure everyones intentions are for this file,but me I want to place it into the retail DVD and keep everything intact,warnings and all,I want this to look the way it should have been released,with that said I just hit a road block,I have ANH done pretty much,everything works and all is there even the xbox trailer and demo LOL,but I NEED to add the English subs in to be complete,and everyone knows I have a HELL of a time with damn subs,so does anyone know how I can mux the subs back in and be done with ANH?

Then I will do the same treatment to ROTJ.

I will render ESB to a lossless avi for encode tonight,once done then I will decide how to share.

Since I will have the 3 30+ GB's lossless avi files I would like to make a nice Xvid out of them and maybe an x264 file as well,I know how to make an Xvid but not an x264 file,anyone know how?

Well that is where I am at now.

I am wanting to get this done to start my new project,"Take 2" of the Japanese Special Collection Trilogy.

Author: Doctor M
Time: 25-Jun-2009 12:58 PM
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Since you aren't making any changes in play speed, subs are a piece of piss.

Rip them from the original DVD using PGCDemux. It'll give you all the files in .SUP format.

Do the intermediate muxing of your new video, audio and subtitle files in MuxMan (not many authoring programs can handle .SUP format).

Then of course use VobBlanker to drop your new muxed content back onto the original disc.

For x264 files try AutoMKV or MeGUI.

Those screenshots are not of the same frame, so comparison is a bit difficult, but, I don't see anything that looks like the work of a deband filter. Have you checked the cantina scene? The screenshot you had before of Han's hand has banding.

Dr. M

Author: Doctor M
Time: 25-Jun-2009 1:51 PM
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Ok, this is more a minirant than a comment.

fft3dfilter is awesome. I probably couldn't live without it. Still comparisons of before and after show it really does its thing for removing noise.

What I don't understand about it is that in motion it makes it look like the camera lens is dirty. Besides softening the picture, you get a soft pattern that looks a bit like film grain but doesn't change pattern from frame to frame.

I'm not sure I can explain it better. It's a strange artifact, but I've seen it time and time again. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Dr. M

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 3:09 PM
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OK muxman put everything back in that was needed,but it dropped my chapter stops,how do I add in the chapter celltimes before I use VobBlanker to replace the video?

Thanks

Author: Oldschooljedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 3:46 PM
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When you demux with pgcdemux you have to select 'create Celltimes.txt' but make sure you unselect 'Include end time'.

Pgcdemux gives you the chapters in Celltime.txt.

Now when you mux with muxman you need to select 'file' on the top left side of muxman and then 'Import chapter'. Then you browse for the Celltime.txt that pgcdemux created. Then import all the streams you want to mux. Thats it.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 4:05 PM
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Oldschooljedi said:
When you demux with pgcdemux you have to select 'create Celltimes.txt' but make sure you unselect 'Include end time'.

Pgcdemux gives you the chapters in Celltime.txt.

Now when you mux with muxman you need to select 'file' on the top left side of muxman and then 'Import chapter'. Then you browse for the Celltime.txt that pgcdemux created. Then import all the streams you want to mux. Thats it.

Thank you I will try it right now.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 4:46 PM (Edited)
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OK ANH is done and all buttons work,everything is exact to the retail DVD right down to the warnings and trailers and demo's LOL,here are some screens:

I might do a movie only single layer version as well,but not sure yet,now to finish ROTJ.

Author: joebshmoe
Time: 25-Jun-2009 5:33 PM
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these look great.

here's a crazy thought... what about these as AVCHD?

just to take advantage of higher quality video (high bitrate x264) on SL DVD

and it may be just me, but i hate the GOUT DVDs. just a static menu would work for me, LOL

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 7:09 PM
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I won't make them AVCHD's,just not enough there to make them look good.

Well both ANH and ROTJ are finished,they are both DL DVD's and wiegh in at 7.03 GB for ANH,and 7.54 GB for ROTJ,like I said above,ESB lossless avi will be rendered tonight and the finished DVD within a day or 2 after that,then once these are done I will devote my time to finishing my "Take 2" on the Japanese Special Collection Trilogy,hopefully with g-force's help,hint,hint.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 25-Jun-2009 7:51 PM
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Doctor M said:
Those screenshots are not of the same frame, so comparison is a bit difficult, but, I don't see anything that looks like the work of a deband filter. Have you checked the cantina scene? The screenshot you had before of Han's hand has banding.

I tried to get them as close as I could,oh well.

and here are some screens of Han's hand with the GradFun2DBmod filter: