adywan said:oh_riginal said:RoccondilRinon said:I agree, OR. A nice subtle boost is all that's needed — no need to show the "grille" effect, something more resembling the Death Star escape is more appropriate.
I agree with no grill visual, as Ady had a good argument against using it in the other shots, since the engine had already been on long enough to be more lit up... but the Death Star escape still convinces me that the Bespin platform escape could use a little tweaking with the Falcon blasting off.
I think the engine looks so lit up already in the Bespin shot, that it just has to be downplayed and toned down while the Falcon is lifting off the ground, then blow back up to the original look as it is taking off. I don't know how possible that is to do with the existing shot, but someone like Ady could probably figure out a way to do it (but only if he wanted to.)
The main problem is that the original footage has a very strong engine glow and its impossible to remove this to make it more toned down. The sound FX do seem a bit out of place in this shot though so something may be done, but this may happen when i get to the audio side of things
Damn, that sucks about the engine glow, as I think it would be completely appropriate to have the engine blasting off in that scene, like in the Death Star escape. Oh well, I tried!
adywan said:oh_riginal said:How about this? I would like to see a heat blur added to the torture scene, to better sell Han's reaction to the intense heat coming out of the torture device.
Here's a (poorly done) example:
Now while this is a good idea it does create a problem with all later shots of han. If this device produces so much heat to cause this amount of pain then why isn't his shirt scorched? Put something white next to an electric bar fire as close as han is to the device and see just what the heat would have done to his shirt. Just look how far away he is when he first reacts. that thing would have to produce some intense heat to cause a reaction like that. I've been thinking of adding some electrical arcs hitting han as he is lowered but i won't be adding a heat haze.
Hmm, I suppose it all depends on how long we can assume Han was tortured. As Han said "they never even asked me any questions," so it's safe to assume the entire time spent was on just inflicting pain upon Han, without interrogation.
Also, how long can someone stand over a fully pre-heated open oven door before having any marks from it? I was just assuming that the heat was enough to be painful, but not enough to leave any marks, just like how Vader said "he will not be permanently damaged," so maybe the heat wasn't intense enough to burn his shirt, coat, or skin, but was enough to be torturous if exposed to for long periods of time.
But, the final word has been spoken on this subject....
So I will take this opportunity to bring up a question I asked before:
oh_riginal said:I didn't see this listed as a fix listed anywhere so...
I noticed, while rewatching the Falcon floating amongst the trail of garbage in space, that just before it turns its engines on (yeah, I was watching the shot originally for more engine goodness), it seems to freeze in "mid-air" for a few frames, as if it stopped floating before the engines even came on, which doesn't make any sense to me.
Should the Falcon not have kept floating until the engines caused it to move? The engine isn't even on yet, and the Falcon freezes.
Anyone else besides me see this as an issue?
One way to fix this would be to either have the engine light up sooner (but not blast off yet) to explain why the Falcon suddenly stopped floating, OR to make it so that the Falcon continues to float along for that extra few frames before blasting off.
Your thoughts, Ady?
Also, (and this might just be me), I can't seem to find Slave 1 among the garbage in the shots of the garbage floating from the Star Destroyer, and in the shot of the Falcon blasting out of there. I understand Han and co. are supposed to be fooled by not noticing Boba's ship among the debris, but as far as continuity goes, should we as the viewers not be able to see the shape of the ship in the earlier shots?
Or did I just see the ship and was completely unable to recognize it?
I'm starting to feel like I'm getting really nitpicky here....
So, any thoughts on fixing the paused Falcon among the garbage?