fishmanlee said:his battle with Psuedo-Vader in the cave was some saber practice i can tell you that much
Have you even seen all of the ESB? Luke disobeyed Yoda by taking his saber with him into the cave....it wasn't "saber practice".
The cave was meant to be a teaching tool...to learn what his own inner weaknesses were....
Maybe you should pop in the movie and watch it again.