That shot in the trailer kinda bothered me too but it might have been over analyzed by me cuz it's when I got bored and started going slo-mo through the trailer that I took the most notice. The static grain (which I'm sure might be fixed anyhow) mixed with being a little bit too in focus like was said. With a slight blur, sun position aside, it puts the emphasis right back on the soldiers and becomes a lot more natural and subtle when blurred just a bit. I even left the room for a bit and came back and looked and the bottom just seemed more natural right off the bat.
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I think I remember reading a while back that Adywan said the grain would not be static on the final release - something to do with rendering the grain , and he just didn't do that for the trailer.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that though.
Oldfan said:I think I remember reading a while back that Adywan said the grain would not be static on the final release - something to do with rendering the grain , and he just didn't do that for the trailer.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that though.
He did indeed say that. Saves time to render when he doesn't do the motion grain.
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Oldfan said:I think I remember reading a while back that Adywan said the grain would not be static on the final release - something to do with rendering the grain , and he just didn't do that for the trailer.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that though.
I'm 99% sure Ady did say that because I'm catching up on all of the developments after a year of not being on here, lol.
There looks like there do need to be some touch ups to some of the shots seen in the trailer, but overall the development of all the shots, including the new CGI mattes (such as that beautiful looking cloud city one) indicates that any grain seen will be rendered because there are gonna be HD copies of this too.
I can't wait, we're in for a treat.
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DarthBo said:Something that bothered me in the trailer was the new background in the Hoth trench scene. It might be because I'm not used to it, but it felt fake, like it was too much in focus or because there was too much grain.
Here's a comparison, with the last pic having a blurred background.
I completely agree. I mentioned this a while ago, but no one replied. The new background looks a bit too "flat" (should have some more shadows) and should be more blurred. Otherwise, its a great way to restore continuity.
I did mention that many of the shots in the trailer either didn't have some FX layers enabled to save rendering time or were unfinished. the trench being one of them.
Finished trench:
Oh fresh pics!
Nice work!
cant wait to see some prop action :)
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adywan said:I did mention that many of the shots in the trailer either didn't have some FX layers enabled to save rendering time or were unfinished. the trench being one of them.
Finished trench:
Looks great, always nice to have another preview. You can't resist just saying "trust me", can you? ;-)
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We assume too much Ady. Dont bother us :)
just put a WIP label to anything you make hehe
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He got us a newer still out of the deal!
adywan said:I did mention that many of the shots in the trailer either didn't have some FX layers enabled to save rendering time or were unfinished. the trench being one of them.
Finished trench:
wonderful :-)
That is a huge improvement, but (don't you hate that word), unless I'm seeing this wrong, shouldn't there be less shadow on the turret? Judging by the snow the sun should be somewhere left of your (the viewer's) head. Yet here the background's sun is still behind the turret instead of in front, though this time on the correct (left) side.
DarthBo said:wonderful :-)
That is a huge improvement, but (don't you hate that word), unless I'm seeing this wrong, shouldn't there be less shadow on the turret? Judging by the snow the sun should be somewhere left of your (the viewer's) head. Yet here the background's sun is still behind the turret instead of in front, though this time on the correct (left) side.
He's not going to be able to fix the sun direction in most of the wrong shots during the battle, why not start messing with the sun right at the beginning? LOL
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There's a bunch of stuff casting shadows too, maybably, so it's no big deal.
I suppose there could be another structure off camera that's casting a shadow on the turret, thus eliminating all remaining errors :P
It really does looks great now, I'll shut up for a while ^^
doubleofive said:DarthBo said:wonderful :-)
That is a huge improvement, but (don't you hate that word), unless I'm seeing this wrong, shouldn't there be less shadow on the turret? Judging by the snow the sun should be somewhere left of your (the viewer's) head. Yet here the background's sun is still behind the turret instead of in front, though this time on the correct (left) side.
He's not going to be able to fix the sun direction in most of the wrong shots during the battle, why not start messing with the sun right at the beginning? LOL
Hoth could have multiple (but distant enough to keep the planet cold) suns, ala the movie Pitch Black... but adding another sun or two would be more hassle than it's worth I would think.
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oh_riginal said:Hoth could have multiple (but distant enough to keep the planet cold) suns, ala the movie Pitch Black... but adding another sun or two would be more hassle than it's worth I would think.
same as tattooine shit. two light suns two slight different shadows.
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adywan said:Finished trench:
Looks much, much better, Ady! Thanks. :)
Ady, I'm fairly sure this wasn't mentioned: In the film's climactic moment, when Vader says "No, I am your father," you can see that in the very last second of that shot, the footage of Darth Vader was played back in reverse, kinda like the scene of the Tusken Raider swinging his gaffi stick over his head in ANH. Will this be fixed, Ady?
MAN! sharp eye there! never noticed that before!
im wondering some reverse played footage all over the sixlogy(!)
Look sir its a stage!
hopefully that shot is cut from ESB:R :)
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The Golden Idol said:Ady, I'm fairly sure this wasn't mentioned: In the film's climactic moment, when Vader says "No, I am your father," you can see that in the very last second of that shot, the footage of Darth Vader was played back in reverse, kinda like the scene of the Tusken Raider swinging his gaffi stick over his head in ANH. Will this be fixed, Ady?
Yeh, thats been fixed
adywan said:The Golden Idol said:Ady, I'm fairly sure this wasn't mentioned: In the film's climactic moment, when Vader says "No, I am your father," you can see that in the very last second of that shot, the footage of Darth Vader was played back in reverse, kinda like the scene of the Tusken Raider swinging his gaffi stick over his head in ANH. Will this be fixed, Ady?
Yeh, thats been fixed
Awesome. I've always noticed that, and it just kinda cheapens the most climactic part of the movie. I'm glad it's fixed.
I wonder why the Tusken Raider shake wasn't fixed (Not that I have a problem with it staying in ANH:R).
Good eye on that last screenshot, vaderios! Kinda funny. Are those lights supposed to go all the way up to the ceiling?
vaderios said:MAN! sharp eye there! never noticed that before!
im wondering some reverse played footage all over the sixlogy(!)
Look sir its a stage!
hopefully that shot is cut from ESB:R :)
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File it over in the ESB/ROTJ wishlist thread. He'll still have to fix it for ROTJ:R.
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Ziz said:vaderios said:MAN! sharp eye there! never noticed that before!
im wondering some reverse played footage all over the sixlogy(!)
Look sir its a stage!
hopefully that shot is cut from ESB:R :)
-Angel
File it over in the ESB/ROTJ wishlist thread. He'll still have to fix it for ROTJ:R.
That shot is from ESB:SE. It's unused footage from the making of ROTJ.
EDIT: The footage re-inserted into ROTJ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PeAlUmgYM
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^Which means it's not gonna be in ESB anyway, innit? But maybe he'll use it in ROTJ:R. But yes, this might be better discussed in another thread.
