STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 458

G E Predator said:

If you don't know, then you can use your *waves hands and makes a rainbow" imagination :D

Spongebob takes too much LSD :)

a good example for younger viewers.

And yes no need to show boba's way to hangar.

-Angel

Just had to make this:

Gornssk. Gooorrrrnssk. A very 'woody' sort of bounty hunter.

Ripplin said:

 

 

hmm...Godzilla on acid maybe?

G E Predator said:

Once again, boys...not everything in the movie needs to be explained.  If you don't know, then you can use your *waves hands and makes a rainbow" imagination :D

 

Haha, I'm not really worried about continuity issues or the logistics concerning where the bounty hunters went, I was merely wondering why Boba was the only one to follow Falcon.

I mean, where'd the other ones go? We never see them again! I miss them.  :(

Ady, can you have the other Bouny Hunters' bodies floating among the space junk as the Falcon detaches? Maybe C3P0 and IG-88 could have a shock stick battle on the outer hull of the Falcon like R2 and the buzz droids in Episode 3!

=P

vaderios said:

G E Predator said:

If you don't know, then you can use your *waves hands and makes a rainbow" imagination :D

Spongebob takes too much LSD :)

a good example for younger viewers.

 

And yes no need to show boba's way to hangar.

 

-Angel

 

I'm not implying that it should be explained, but even if one were to attempt to try explaining it, I don't think they could pull it off.

Reason?

I believe Boba was the only one who caught onto Han's trick. Obviously he would not want to point the Falcon out to the Empire like "hey you dumbasses! He's parked RIGHT THERE!" as he wanted to catch Han himself, to get the payment.

So by that logic, when Slave 1 floated out of the Star Destroyer, NOBODY knew it was there, except Boba himself, right? Nobody knew about the Falcon except Boba, and nobody knew about Boba being there (just an assumption really, but the most logical one).

But thats not what bothers me really. What bothers me is, how did he get from the bridge of the Executor to the Avenger in such a short amount of time? And under the noses of not just those on board the Avenger, but the rest of the fleet as well (as seen in all directions around the Avenger during the reveal of the Falcon's hiding spot)? And also under the nose of Han, who pulled the trick off in the first place.

Now, as I said, I'm not saying this needs to be fixed... but if you think on it long enough, that plot hole gets pretty big. Just thought I'd point it out.

Personally I would rather just have that damn GPS monitor in the scene! Oh wait, I said I'd let that go, didn't I...? Sorry!

Anyways... glad to hear about Bossk getting some sneer! How about IG-88? Anything added to him? More blinking lights or something?

There actually is a cut, oh_riginal. The imperial says,"My lord, we have them." Then there is a 'corkscrew wipe' (if I remember correctly) to the Falcon, and C3P0 says "Oh thank goodness we're coming out of the astroid field." But we, the audience, aren't sure how much time disclosed between those two scenes. Perhaps it was long enough for Boba to take a turbolift to the hanger and follow the Falcon unseen. I don't think its a problem, personally. =)

Ripplin said:

Just had to make this:

Gornssk. Gooorrrrnssk. A very 'woody' sort of bounty hunter.

Now I had to make this

Bossleestak

Enigmas said:

There actually is a cut, oh_riginal. The imperial says,"My lord, we have them." Then there is a 'corkscrew wipe' (if I remember correctly) to the Falcon, and C3P0 says "Oh thank goodness we're coming out of the astroid field." But we, the audience, aren't sure how much time disclosed between those two scenes. Perhaps it was long enough for Boba to take a turbolift to the hanger and follow the Falcon unseen. I don't think its a problem, personally. =)

Okay I can see what you're saying, though it doesn't come off that clearly in the film.

Theres a lot in ESB that it seems one has to fill in the blanks more than usual... for example, I always assumed that the time between when the Falcon finally evades the Imperial Fleet (but not Boba), that it took quite a while for Han and Co. to reach Bespin with no lightspeed capability, hence the line "Bespin is pretty far but I think we can make it."

This allows more time in the narrative for Luke to have gotten more training from Yoda than it would seem he had. If it took, say, a month (just an example) for the Falcon to go from the asteroid field to Bespin, then thats a month Luke got to train, making his transition from failing to lift the x-wing and the failure at the cave, to being able to fend off Vader for a bit in a duel much more believable.

Or am I stretching things out too much?

That's more or less what I assumed. A more radical edit might make the time difference more explicit — the Bespin scenes and the Dagobah scenes are intercut in the original and ESB:R, whereas a time-stretching edit would place the Bespin scenes after most of Dagobah.

The only problem with this is that the Han/Leia romantic subplot plays out like they were only on the Falcon for a few days. You could justify this in a harder piece of SF by citing relativistic effects — they take a few months to get to Bespin, giving Luke the requisite time to train, but they only perceive a few days — but in something like Star Wars it comes across as handwaving.

satanika said:

Ripplin said:

Just had to make this:

Gornssk. Gooorrrrnssk. A very 'woody' sort of bounty hunter.

Now I had to make this

Bossleestak

 

Hahaha! Those are fu**ing hilarious! :D

Great stuff.

That's the other thing I like about sticking that scene at the beginning of ROTJ. With a few minor cuts we can imply he's been there for a while again.

RoccondilRinon said:

That's the other thing I like about sticking that scene at the beginning of ROTJ. With a few minor cuts we can imply he's been there for a while again.

This I also agree with. Though we are starting to get off topic again!

Going back to the scene of Luke cutting the hatch open on the AT-AT, does anyone else think the top of the AT-AT leg on the right side of the screen doesn't quite match how it looks and moves in the full shots of the AT-ATs?

oh_riginal said:

Going back to the scene of Luke cutting the hatch open on the AT-AT, does anyone else think the top of the AT-AT leg on the right side of the screen doesn't quite match how it looks and moves in the full shots of the AT-ATs?

Yes. Profecor Impfighter gave a lecture on that! I think that he cover all the aspects :)

-Angel

enigmas

get the book tales of the bounty hunters
that will tell you all you need to know

i have a hard time believing that han flew sublight for a month or more without looking in his rearview mirror
maybe there will be an eu story to cover what happened to them during that time

professa said:

there will be an eu story to cover what happened to them during that time

I ll tell you what happened :)

Han and Leia made it out ala wookkie style

:)

-Angel

Not for nothing is he called "Pope-a-tine" :P

He's certainly evil enough. *ducks* :p

Whew! in the time I've been away there certainly has been a lot going on. From models lost in the PO (apalling!), to Leia and Luke not being twins, to prequel lightsabers, to The Great Vane discussion, to the MF interiors...after reading everything I wanted to comment on the prequel Jedi, BUT since this is not the place to discuss it I'll wait until pops up again, hehe.

I will only say on the Vane thing that it was confusing where the carbon chamber is, Ady's explanation is good enough, I see the whole Cloud City part of the movie as more a series of visual metaphors not governed by the laws of logic: Going to a place in the clouds where everything is shiny and nice on the outside but rotten inside like a grave....like a trap, and then the Carbon Freezing chamber (and sequence) to be a more of a descending into the "Belly of the Beast", "Vader's Lair" if you will for Luke to meet his enemy only to be put between a rock and a hard place (or endless chasm!) for the ultimate sacrifice....in that vein, the sets can be confusing because they are going more for visuals and impact rather that perfectly planned environments...my 2 cents.

professa said:

enigmas

get the book tales of the bounty hunters
that will tell you all you need to know

Oh, yeah, my younger brother commented that I should read that novel if I wanted to know what happened as well. But I think I know what happened.

This:

Enigmas said:

Ady, can you have the other Bouny Hunters' bodies floating among the space junk as the Falcon detaches? Maybe C3P0 and IG-88 could have a shock stick battle on the outer hull of the Falcon like R2 and the buzz droids in Episode 3!

 

 

=P

professa said:

i have a hard time believing that han flew sublight for a month or more without looking in his rearview mirror
maybe there will be an eu story to cover what happened to them during that time

Boba was supposed to have tracked the Falcon's trajectory, then extrapolated where their destination was. He then informed the Empire when he was certain, and jumped to Bespin himself. Vader then set the trap in Cloud City. This is not from EU, this is what I understood to be movie cannon.

This doesn't answer the question how long the Falcon and her passengers took to get to there. I know enough physics to give you a realistic answer, yet I also know enough about Star Wars to know that it would be ignored.