The most godawful sequel? — Page 2

My favorite Star Wars game of all time is "Tie Fighter," which was last upgraded 13 years ago. 

I can't even run it on my newest computer. 

Nanner Split said:

I can agree with you there on Jedi Knight C3PX, but let's get down to brass tacks here: Jedi Outcast was awesome.

Jedi Outcast was unbelievably good! As far as good SW games go, I rank it somewhere near the top not too far being Dark Forces. The concept for Jedi Academy was great, I really liked the idea of playing as Katarn's apprentice, fighting side by side with him on some missions, and the New Republic Jedi going back to the master and apprentice style of the Old Republic, but somehow Jedi Academy fell flat. 

Back on topic, I am a fan of the old campy James Bond films, but Never Say Never Again and On Her Majesties Secret Service were so bad I can never watch them. Oh, and A View to a Kill was overly awful as well. I also found Star Trek V:The Final Frontier particularly hard to stomach. 

@ Trooperman

Yeah, Tie Fighter, and all the earlier installments to the X-Wing series where quite good. They can be a bit hard to get to work on new computers, but there is always a way! If you're Windows user, you can download a program called "Virtual PC" for free from Microsoft. This program is a Windows PC emulator that use to be sold by a company called Connectix, I used to use it way back then. At that time there was a Windows and a Macintosh version of the program, but later Microsoft bought Virtual PC from them and discontinued the Macintosh version, and offered the Windows version for free (which is awesome, because it was a pricy program). Just search Microsoft.com for Virtual PC and you'll find the download page.

Anyway, if you have an old copy of Windows lying around (95, 98, ME, any of those should run Tie Fighter perfectly), you can use Virtual PC to create a virtual computer on your hard drive, you can set its specs, and install an old version of Windows on it, and it works exactly like an older computer and runs older programs flawlessly. 

Whoa! I've never heard of Virtual PC before, but that sounds pretty awesome! I would have suggested DOSBox to run old games, but I like your idea better. :P

Seriously, it is great. Dosbox is okay, but this allows for many none DOS programs as well. It is kind of a pain to setup the first time, since you have to install Windows on your virtual PC and everything. But once you get it setup, it is flawless. Also, once you get ti setup, you might as well save all the files to a DVD-R, you can save your virtual hard drive to the disc and have everything setup just how you wanted, installed programs and all, that way you never have to mess with setting up windows on it or installing your games again. Really a great program for people like me who have a hard time giving up the past.

The last time I used it was to play Resident Evil 2 for the PC. It runs fine on modern PCs, but you cannot save your progress, since the save system only supported FAT partitioned harddrives and cannot recognize NTSF at all. Looking around on the internet, most people recommended a floppy disc or a flash drive, I couldn't get either to work, so I decided to whip out Virtual PC and make myself a brand new Virtual computer with a FAT harddisk. Worked perfectly.

Grease 2

Exorcist 2

The Fly 2

Janskeet said:

Whoever said Termainator 2 is a bad sequel, I have to strongly disagree. Terminator 2 was a landmark in cinema.

 besides the special effects, what else was 'landmark' about it?

the first one is the landmark, all the others were just rehashing

the same plot with a lesser, more confusing story that retroactively

changes the story to a much weaker storyline..

and on top of that, they refuse to stop confusing things, now with

a tv show, and a fourth movie....ughhhhhhhhhh... just like aliens

deteriorated into straight-to-video (or it should have)..

the terminator franchise is being killed off, and it started with the weak plot from the 2nd movie..

later

-1

negative1 said:

and on top of that, they refuse to stop confusing things, now with

a tv show, and a fourth movie....ughhhhhhhhhh... just like aliens

deteriorated into straight-to-video (or it should have)..

the terminator franchise is being killed off, and it started with the weak plot from the 2nd movie..

 

later

-1

For a guy that bitches at people taking the new SW stuff too seriously, I think you are doing EXACTLY the same with the Terminator franchise.  As you have said to others who criticize the PT and the new TV show, maybe YOU need to lighten up and just forget about the stuff you hate and just enjoy the Original Terminator.  Remember the thread is about bad sequels, so there is no need to go on a tirade on how much you hate the TV show and spinoffs.

I love the irony from you guys like you sometimes:)

I should add:

The mummy  3

Journey to the Center of the Earth 3-D

Hulk Remake with Guy from Fight Club and Girl from Lord of the Rings

I must Put Indiana Jones Kingdom of the Crystal Skull up here again that movie was all kinds of awful.  The Kind of Bad that comes along once in a lifetime like seeing Plan 9 from outer space part 2.  When does a series get so retarded that it becomes self parody.

T-3 Rise of the Machines

Clone Wars 2008 if i forgot to add it lets make sure i list it several times in the same thread since it was pure turkey.

Episodes 1-3   belong on this list. 

Phantom Menace mostly because of Jar Jar binks.  Clone and Sith because it was an Emo Bitch Drama.

Jumper, my god i thought sam Jackson and Hayden were only horrible in the prequels boy was i wrong.

I still have not given my verdict on Iron Man or the Dark Knight yet.  But man is that Wolverine movie going to suck, and that Underworld prequel without that hot chick that made the first 2 worth watching. That will suck.

I predict Transformers 2 will Nuke the Fridge in all sorts of ways.  I am split on Whether Star Trek 2009 is going to suck.  The new bond supposedly sucks.  Oh well maybe they will have to recast him again and reboot again in 2 or 3 films time.

I say how about the Matrix Revolutions was by far the worst of the three movies. 

Oh shit sam Jackson again Triple X state of the Union without Vin Diesel and some rapper,lol.

Every Fast and the Furious film except the first 1.

The Chronicles of Riddick

I thought Hellboy II sucked just not as bad as the first.

My thoughts on the Terminator Movies by James Cameron.  The first one a balls to the wall low budget b movie with tons of action, a bit of a horror movie here and thriller there.  It does not strike the same emotions as Part 2 did.  Part 2 took the concept of the first and made it into an allegory on mans self destructiveness.

Part 3 started the trend with the terminator babe that continues on the tv series.  Otherwise neither have anything to do with James Cameron as far as i'm concerned either he made a canon T-3 or all that shit is alternate universe stuff.

They can make Terminator Movies without him.  Kind of Like Universal Pictures has the right to make Back to the Future sequels without the director or writers.

Paramount can make as many derivative Star Treks as they want because the Roddenberry family does not own the property gene r created.

The one Person i know of they cannot make movies based on his stories without his consent is George Lucas.  No Star Wars by some no name writer or director upstart.   Plus once he is gone i believe he has it written into his will Iron clad that no new star wars can be made.  Most Likely also in his will to prevent the oot ever be restored.

Chewy72 said:

For a guy that bitches at people taking the new SW stuff too seriously, I think you are doing EXACTLY the same with the Terminator franchise.  As you have said to others who criticize the PT and the new TV show, maybe YOU need to lighten up and just forget about the stuff you hate and just enjoy the Original Terminator.  Remember the thread is about bad sequels, so there is no need to go on a tirade on how much you hate the TV show and spinoffs.

I love the irony from you guys like you sometimes:)

 

the problem is that the Terminator series (like Aliens) had a lot of potential... if you read the

novels, or graphic novels, you'll see they had a lot of better plots (although sometimes just

as confusing)...........................  i'm not a Huge fan of aliens / terminator, but i've actually

watched them a lot more than i've ever watched the star war series... so that's why i

feel more strongly about the way they've been mishandled....

the first terminator and the first alien movie are among my all time favorites, and great

classics of film (just like 'star wars' is)..... so it is grating and annoying that they've

been mishandled badly ..... with star wars i give it more leeway, because i'm not as

entrenched in the stories (i think i lost touch back in the late 80's)... but am now slowly

getting back into it..

later

-1

You really have a hard times with matters of opinion and personal preference, don't you -1?

time to add:

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madagascar 2 to the list..

much like toy story 2 disappointed, and ice age 2, and shrek 2 etc etc..

this had its moments (especially with the penguins),

but putting in all the backstory, and not sticking to a plot this time,

it was just mostly them wandering around for no reason..

the graphics looked good,

but it was definitely lacking the originality of the first one..

later

-1

Bingowings said:

Negative 1 I have to disagree with you there about Psycho II, it's a classic in it's own right (even Psycho III which is really the sort of Psycho II we could have expected isn't that bad in places).

-1 hasn't logged on for going on three month now. Wonder if he'll ever be back? Guess he got bored with us.

Bingowings said:

Batman & Robin, oh my giddy aunt.

The only film I felt genuinely embarrised to be caught seeing was Caravan Of Courage (if only I had watched the thing drunk) but that's really a prequel I guess.

...

Battle For The Planet Of The Apes is also a sorry mess.

I'll thrown in my giddy aunt to for Batman & Robin. That is a movie I felt embarrassed to be caught seeing.

Caravan of Courage (which I am only pretty sure is another GL name retcon, as I owned the VHS at one point and remember it only being called Ewoks Adventure or something like that), is something I actually never felt was that awful. It is clearly made for children, and it is made for TV (only we Americans like to market our made for TV crap as cinema quality work in your country, Bingo. Kind of like your neighbor sending their kid over to bring you their leftovers in a shoebox, because they think you are poor. I'd protest if I were you. I don't suppose my country men are still that shameless, are they?). I always found it a really cool little fantasy style story told in the SW universe. Always reminded me of The Hobbit a great deal, not so much in story (though there are elements) but in style. Again, no fancy work of art, but as far as made for TV kids movies go, I find it pretty fair. Honestly, I'd much rather watch it and its sequel than any of the prequels.

And as much as I loved the Conquest for the Planet of the Apes (not saying it was good, just that I am personally very fond of it), Battle for the Planet of the Apes was a rather disappointing follow up.

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are something I have always really wanted to get into, but try as I might, have never actually managed to.

Worst sequel is Mortal Kombat Annihilation

Terminator salvation and wolverine can be added to the list of awful sequels, prequels and reboots.

There are also films that are terrible sequels but not terrible films.

Like the new star trek that movie was an awful sequel prequel, or superman returns.

To me the most godawful sequel is one you spend money on.  For me that was Indiana Jones IV.  The worst waste of ten dollars ever.  If i want bad movies i could rent or buy the dvd for plan 9, or watch the mummy movies, but i did not imagine it would end up in a indiana jones film.  Come on bad homages to bad 50's era movies, george sinply does not get the series if he thinks that works for indy.

I still have a contempt and loathing for the prequels of star wars because they rode the coatails of the originals and aimed so low it is pathetic.  As far as i concerned Lucas owes my 40 dollars and an apology, for the disgrace that was the prequels and indiana jones IV.  But it took the 2006 release of the originals as a bonus disc in shitty bootleg laserdisc non anamorphic quality to really set me off as a fan.

Other than the star wars books and comics and every now and again rarely video game, i never buy Lucas products any more.  I will buy the clone wars show on dvd if reasonably priced and complete and in the correct aspect ratio.  I will probably continue to buy the fate of the jedi novels and legacy comics.

But for indiana jones and star wars dvd releases on blu ray or dvd you can count me out on any new cgi tinkering or ruination.

In terms of video game sequels i must say the worst sequels i have ever seen are final fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy VII dirge of cerebrus or the prequel to final fantasy VII.  All awful.  I am actually one of the few who liked advent chidren.

Some would say resident evil 2 was a bad sequel i disagree that would be resident evil III imho.  The worst has to be code veronica.

And non canon or unauthorized butchering of a series like the non Kojima metal gears on the nes.

Bad sequels also includes the jj film mission impossible III.

I cannot believe i wasted my time on that film at all.

C3PX said:

Bingowings said:

Batman & Robin, oh my giddy aunt.

The only film I felt genuinely embarrised to be caught seeing was Caravan Of Courage (if only I had watched the thing drunk) but that's really a prequel I guess.

...

Battle For The Planet Of The Apes is also a sorry mess.

I'll thrown in my giddy aunt to for Batman & Robin. That is a movie I felt embarrassed to be caught seeing.

Caravan of Courage (which I am only pretty sure is another GL name retcon, as I owned the VHS at one point and remember it only being called Ewoks Adventure or something like that), is something I actually never felt was that awful. It is clearly made for children, and it is made for TV (only we Americans like to market our made for TV crap as cinema quality work in your country, Bingo. Kind of like your neighbor sending their kid over to bring you their leftovers in a shoebox, because they think you are poor. I'd protest if I were you. I don't suppose my country men are still that shameless, are they?). I always found it a really cool little fantasy style story told in the SW universe. Always reminded me of The Hobbit a great deal, not so much in story (though there are elements) but in style. Again, no fancy work of art, but as far as made for TV kids movies go, I find it pretty fair. Honestly, I'd much rather watch it and its sequel than any of the prequels.

And as much as I loved the Conquest for the Planet of the Apes (not saying it was good, just that I am personally very fond of it), Battle for the Planet of the Apes was a rather disappointing follow up.

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are something I have always really wanted to get into, but try as I might, have never actually managed to.

The ewok movies had different names because elsewhere in the world they got theatrical showings but not in the good old usa.  Caravan of Courage may have been the european theatrical title?

I think there are different title cards one for ewok adventure and caravan of courage.  I believe they used the high quality film prints for the dvd and not the low qualty vhs masters or broadcast masters they used to air on the disney channel.

Young Indy dvd's edited out old indy from the tv version.  Lucas is notorious for not leaving well enough alone.  But perhaps od indy was removed from canon because of kotcs, i'm scratching my head in confusion as to why they made this change.  Did they cut it for rights reasons like they did not want to pay the old actor royalties or just thought in the end old indy was a bad idea after the fact.  Jar Jar binks in episode 1 was a bad idea after the fact, having hayden in episode II and III was a bad idea after the fact but you don't see either being removed from the dvd's.

The most godawful sequel is The New Testament, hands down. Once they introduced that Jesus character, the whole thing became outlandish.

Rob said:

The most godawful sequel is The New Testament, hands down. Once they introduced that Jesus character, the whole thing became outlandish.

 LOL and the thread comes to a screeching hault........

Here's my list

X-Men 3 -

Spiderman 3 -

NEVER BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED IN A SEQUEL EVER BEFORE I SAW THESE!!!! ICK 

Shrek 3-sucked

Alien 3 on, including AVPs- they made no goddamn sense, and AVPR was garbage

I wont even name the new Indy

all Crow sequels - on a side note, there is now a remake in the works, which I am boycotting, they just cant leave Brandon Lee's work to rest in peace.

Matrix sequels-just lost its flair to me

and more or less Episode II, for some reason I just cant stand that movie anymore, III is hanging in the balance but I can manage, however, I can always watch I