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So i used to like Star Trek V when i was younger and now i find it almost unwatchable it is so bad.
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4-Jun-2009, 12:52 AM
skyjedi2005 said:
 

Except Star Trek is set in our own primary universe and in the future.  And star wars is set long ago in a galaxy far far away, or once upon a time.  One is clearly intended to be science fiction and the other pure make believe fantasy.  Star Trek is made up to, but it has humans from Earth in it.  Star Trek is more relatable to the real world sciences except where they constantly remain inconsistent with real science.  And It is supposed to follow our own known physics but often denies the implied laws.  

Star Wars and Star Trek cannot be any more opposite in my opinion.  In wars the only people of any subtance are elites who decide how the rest of everybody should live.  In Star Trek its supposed to be every race and people being equal and working together at least in the federation.  But the TV show and movies did not reflect this for a long time.  The Captain James T Kirk being a heterosexual white male.  And everyone else his subordinate and beneath him.

I'm not so sure people want a gay or transgendered captain.  Though they did do the interspecies thing in star trek it was almost always looked upon negatively.  And later on we got a black captain and a female captain. 

Even in the real world of television and movie production Star Trek has had a problem with diversity.  But has made some strides.  At the end of the day though it was created by a White Man who supposedly was a womanizer, And more concerned with making a living as a writer than in changing the world.

That Star Trek claims to be science fiction doesn't mean it has an iota more science in it that Star Wars.

And Elites? The OT is about a group of Rebels (admittedly including a Princess, although her political clout or overall importance seems to be minimal) battling a tyrranical empire. The main heroes are a farmboy, a big hairy monkey-man, and a down on his luck smuggler. Later we have a gambler/small town mayor added to the mix. I'm not sure what you mean by Elites, unless you're refering to the PT.

As near as I can tell, Trek is a fascist socialist society. The pseudo-military Starfleet rules everything with an iron fist. There's no private industry, and apparently no real political equality as the Maquis and the movie 'Insurrection' seem to show.

I know nothing about Rodenberry as a man, but if I understand correctly, he was really trying to show a utopian future. I just think his personal shortsightedness and that of his writers, as well as scientific laziness, shows through quite strongly.