I thought I had an idea of what was cgi in Indy 4, but then I come along to this page (it's shooting locations for Indy 4):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/locations
Take a look, you'll see a lot of location shooting listed.
So what was cgi and what was real in the film?
Sure, a lot of stuff didn't look real, but I'm not going to trust my judgement on this.
Most likely wider shots are CG - digital matte paintings - and a lot of action that they couldn't have direct control over in the real world - Mutt swinging with the monkeys, ant attack, chases, extensive camera tracking moves, things like that.
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My guess is a lot of the "location shooting" was actually just going and shooting background plate shots that were then composited into green-screen live action.
That or Janusz Kaminski is much worse at cinematography than I'd like to believe. He went to my film school, and several of my professors know him personally, so I don't like thinking that he's not good at what he does. :-(
Vaderisnothayden said:So what was cgi and what was real in the film?
From what I remember seeing in the theater......damn near everything in the movie was CG and it was very disappointing after just watching The Last Crusade right before it
Now that was a movie done right!
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There is one film i have seen Kaminski did the cinematography right on Saving Private Ryan. Though his style on world of the worlds and indy IV annoyed me greatly.
I cannot remember if he did Jp 2 but if that was him that was also a pathetic job while the first was done well.
Kotcs was the worst though. The guy said he sat down and watched the previous 3 films and was going to go with Douglas Slocombe's style. Which i saw nowhere in this film. Overly green and washed out.
Sometimes i wonder how these so called pros even have jobs. I mean looking at the cinematographer and screenwriter respectively.
I know of course it comes down to opinion. Spielberg loves this guys style. Which is a reason all the more to love the Spielberg films made before Kaminski did all his films.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
The only cgi that stood out to me in that movie was the animals. I honestly didn't notice the cg backgrounds.
skyjedi2005 said:There is one film i have seen Kaminski did the cinematography right on Saving Private Ryan. Though his style on world of the worlds and indy IV annoyed me greatly.
I cannot remember if he did Jp 2 but if that was him that was also a pathetic job while the first was done well.
Kotcs was the worst though. The guy said he sat down and watched the previous 3 films and was going to go with Douglas Slocombe's style. Which i saw nowhere in this film. Overly green and washed out.
Sometimes i wonder how these so called pros even have jobs. I mean looking at the cinematographer and screenwriter respectively.
I know of course it comes down to opinion. Spielberg loves this guys style. Which is a reason all the more to love the Spielberg films made before Kaminski did all his films.
He did a great job on Schindler's List - speaking from experience, black & white cinematography is a lot harder to make look "right" than people think. Actually, if my Production II instructor wasn't full of shit, he helped Kaminski get that job. Since then, Kaminski and Spielberg have been pretty much inseperable.
And yes, Kaminski did The Lost World, as well.
Vaderisnothayden said:So what was cgi and what was real in the film?
I think it was posted here before the movie came out that the jungle chase scene was filmed in a jungle, but CG elements were added to it later to make it look more dense. Supposedly they couldn't drive safely through a really dense jungle at those speeds.