skyjedi2005 said:Joss Whedon if you wathed Buffy which had huge amounts of star wars references and JJ Abrams is also a lucasite.
I agree with some of your issues with firefly and serenity. I think Whedon was trying for either a space western. Just like Star Trek. These days it is hardly possible for these hollywood types not to copy Lucas or Roddenberry.
Huge amounts? Dude, do you actually watch the shows you bitch about? I have all 7 seasons of Buffy on DVD and there's maybe a reference or two to Star Wars in each season. So that'd be about 7 references in 7 years. Yeah, sure, they had the occasional halloween episode that would have someone dressed in a costume (Luke and Leia making out in season 6 I think, may have been 5), but it's hardly filled with references. The way you talk, you'd think Joss Whedon doesn't have an original idea of his own.
FireFly/Serenity had about as much in common with Star Trek as Buffy did. Star Trek is not a space western. It may have been referred to as "a wagon train in space" but that was more to do with seeking out new civilizations and colonizing planets than being a western. Serenity/FireFly is more like a group of rebels constantly on the run from an overly controlling central government, which is nothing like Star Trek.
Joss Whedon may not be the best writer in the world, but he can write some pretty funny stuff. Most of what made Buffy and FireFly so good were the one liners and the action. Hell, the single greatest episode of Buffy had almost no dialogue (Hush) with the second best episode being the musical (Once More, With Feeling).
C3PX said:The problem is that you really need to know, or at least be sleeping with someone to really get anywhere in the entertainment world. It is all about connections. You can imagine how many TV viewer decide since they enjoy watching movies and TV so much, they ought to give it a go themselves. The world is full of people with bad ideas, who just happen to think their ideas are absolutely brilliant. So I can only really begin to imagine what it is like to be in the position to have to sift through every submission while looking for the rare gem. Really the first step to getting any of your work looked at is to have a decent agent representing you, which isn't really all that easy.
From what I've heard, and I can't remember where I heard it but it was from someone that works in Hollywood and sees how many shows come in and get greenlit, somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 shows get pitched every year and maybe 20 get picked up (basically, the new shows you see each year are what gets picked up). That's less than 10%. Of those shows, something like half get cancelled after their first season. So maybe 10 out of 300 shows go on to two or more seasons.