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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
lol
im still confused on how John originally came to be born...
like the "real" time he was actually born...
your saying that Klye existed even before that?
In a word ... yes.
When John was conceived, his father Kyle Reese was always a man from the future, who technically had not been born yet. If you look at the story from Kyle's point of view its easier. All you do is get born, be raised in a time of machine apocalypse, grow up, fight the machines, go back in time/or if you prefer, go to another place, meet Sarah, fall in love, father a child and give up your life for your loved one(s). You still had a pretty good straight forward life.
The complete circle theory is a logic puzzle. It's not possible, It's a logic theory, not an actual time travel theory, kinda like the first Back to the Future.