Bingowings said:There are two of them and one of him.
yeah... real Jedi like there... they can't get revenge but they can gang up on people! Nothin' like a fair fight! >:)
I say maybe dialogue could be worked in by having Maul and Qui taunt each other but insert said dialogue when we see the other's face, ie. when they speak, we see the back of their head - that way you don't have to worry about lip synching or 'cantina-izing". Or maybe you could do it a little like the film DUNE where the voices are faded and a little echoe-y ie. Maul and Qui are taunting or communicating via there minds.
Also.. I don't know how you would go about this... but maybe the fight needs some editing and alternate FX work. Hell, for that matter, Qui-Jon kind of goes out almost as punkish as Boba. He IS supposed to be a Jedi master and he walks right into that killing blow. Is there any way someone could:
(1) reflect Obi's fateful decision in ANH and have Qui do a pause, look at Obi-Wan, make the sloppy plunge but change the expression on his face as if he knew it was coming, insert the same shock music when Luke sees Obi buy it, have the shield wall (or replacement) take a little longer to open for Obi to reflect (and the music to play out) before he goes into the fight? In fact, maybe someone (hint, hint, Ady) could have Qui-Jon's robes collapse into a heap when he gets hit and maybe insert an altered "Vader poking at Obi's robes with his foot" scene directly afterwards to show Maul doing to same thing.
(2) Considering Ady used the DOTF music during the Obi/Vader fight in ANH:R, I would have NO PROBLEM AT ALL having the same exact shock music play for Obi when seeing Qui-Jon die as when Luke sees Obi-Wan die. Using music ques to tie the 2 series together I think would work quite well, especially if there is a point to the music usage.
(3) hell, for that matter, the shield walls could be edited out and just have Maul wound Obi to the point that it takes him a while to get to the tunnel Qui-Jon and Maul are in. Before Obi runs up, we have some taunting and Maul hinting at something bigger (and/or the destruction of the Jedi), with Qui-Jon weakened due to injury or Sith mental attacks or whatnot - regardless, he is in a position that he knows he either can't win, or Maul points out that the council doesn't trust or believe in him -
- BUT Qui-Jon knows that Obi is considered by the council to be their top student so to speak, so his sacrifice is to galvanize Obi in Qui-Jon's quest to discover what is behind the "phantom menace".
- maybe some extra dialogue earlier could reflect Obi as an "agent Scully" type sent by the council to keep an eye on Qui-Jon and to turn him in if he disobeys the council. Obi is on the fence, but with Qui-Jon the "spooky Mulder" of the Jedi council he is still not sure if he is just a paranoid conspiracy theorist or he's right. When Maul "kills" him, Obi makes his decision and now the council has to listen and follow through with what they didn't want to touch with a 10-light year pole.
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If there was one major problem amongst the rest (uh, bad acting?), it is that things seem to happen without any sort of drama to them: Qui-Jon dies, Naboo is attacked, Nemoidians are killed en masse, they all win, Ani falls in love, they are in peril, things happen and explode, etc., etc. etc. and you're there just shrugging your shoulders at it all.
When Obi-Wan "dies" in ANH, I don't know about you but when I was 7 it punched me in the gut! It was like seeing my grandfather get killed on screen (which is funny.. okay, maybe "that" isn't ... but in FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, of which Lucas ripped this scene from, when Gandalf does his "Fly, you fools!' and then falls into the abyss after the Balrog, my sister was crying like a baby. What do you know? Even though we've seen it before, it still works every time).
It is more than just the "I AM READING OFF OF A TELEPROMPTER (inset cylon voice inflections here)" line reading, the bad attempt at humor ("now I know why I hate flying!", "Oh no, not again!" "There he goes (jumping out of flying cars) again.. that wacky Anakin"), the things that SHOULD be dramatic but fall flatly (the AOTC padme assassination attempt scene), the music to it all, which at times did NOT reflect in any way what was happening on screen... it was ALL OF THE ABOVE.
Hence all of the talk of redubbing damn near all of the actors and actresses, damn near redoing the entire music score AND sound FX, as well as some crazy editing and new FX work, much less damn near re-writing the scripts... all in all, these movies are just Epic Fail just to nail the same emotional and mental high points of what Lucas accomplished 20+ years ago.
Seems to me the cafeteria master has become the student, and he's just been served a three-course meal of "let the wookie do it", if by wookie you mean fans who have no money but a lot of soul...and time.