skyjedi2005 said:Lucas gets to decide the Canon because he created star wars. We can call him out on the fact that the prequels were written after the fact and are not true to the star wars films we all grew up with.
But as an author he could change his conception of star wars later on and recast the universe in that new mode of thinking. He changed as a man and a filmaker over twenty years.
I think he has a right to do what he wants with star wars as long as the original films are given the respect fans demand.
He has a right to change his mind creatively and try new things and ideas. Sometimes risky ones that get him condemned by oot purists.
But as we are all talking about star wars. Which is a fictional universe i think we need to stop and think before it leads to personal insults and attacks against people. I mean that is just silly to get angry over a piece of fiction.
To me though anyone who thinks the prequels are not a very deliberate recasting of the star wars universe which Lucas started with the special editions is blind. IMHO. Not a personal attack or condemnation just an observation.
And Vader is not hayden is right about the oot being the one true canon by which all other star wars should be judged. It is not really a personal Canon. If it was like me you could add the zahn trilogy and other bits and pieces of the sequel era EU as you liked. There are some excellent parts to the EU and then there are some painfully bad parts.
To me if you only care about the 3 original films it is a bit closed minded because you never really see the characters move on and grow beyond return of the jedi. And since Lucas denies ever having in mind a sequel trilogy the EU is a second best option. Therefore the sequel EU to me is canon. Because Lucas gave up on the fans who wanted to see more adventures of luke skywalker as star wars was always meant to be. And changed it into the 1-6 episode story crap of hayden vader.
Lucas gets to decide the Canon because he created star wars. We can call him out on the fact that the prequels were written after the fact and are not true to the star wars films we all grew up with.
Nobody gets to decide the canon. It just exists. We can choose to recognize it or not, but it's there independent of us. What's the real thing is the canon. If something's not the real thing, somebody (like Lucas) saying it's canon won't be enough to make it canon. It has to be the real thing to be canon. Nobody's word defines the canon. The canon defines itself.
Plus Lucas didn't make the Star Wars films all by himself, so I dispute the view that he created Star Wars. Many people worked together to create Star Wars. Also, however much he may or may not have created it, he has clearly lost sight of what defined it and made it work. He has lost his connection to the spirit of Star Wars. He has lost sight of Star Wars. As such, he is certainly not qualified to judge Star Wars canon. This is the man who made Han shoot last and put Hayden in the end of ROTJ. He is not qualified to decide Star wars canon. Anyway, like I said, nobody is really. The canon exists on its own, it defines itself. All we can do is try to recognize what it is. Or choose not to recognize what it is. Canon is meaningless if it is just something somebody invents off the top of their head. It has meaning (as the definition of what's the real thing) if, and only if, it is held to be what's the real thing.
But as an author he could change his conception of star wars later on and recast the universe in that new mode of thinking. He changed as a man and a filmaker over twenty years.
Some change is allowed, but if you change the thing too much it's not Star Wars anymore. That's what happened.
I think he has a right to do what he wants with star wars as long as the original films are given the respect fans demand.
I don't think so. Star Wars is a classic beloved of millions. It shouldn't be destroyed to suit the whims of one man. It should be handled with care, treated responsibly.
He has a right to change his mind creatively and try new things and ideas. Sometimes risky ones that get him condemned by oot purists.
He had the right to make changes and try new things, but only so far, not to the point of major destruction. He didn't have the right to be so destructive.
To me if you only care about the 3 original films it is a bit closed minded because you never really see the characters move on and grow beyond return of the jedi.
You don't need to see the characters move on and grow beyond ROTJ. Every work of art has its limits. Every story has a beginning and end. A story does not need to deal with stuff after its end. You never really see the characters move on and grow beyond ROTJ in the EU either. Because those characters in the comics and novels aren't the real characters. So much of who the characters are is defined by how the were played onscreen by the actors. Take out the actors and you don't have the same characters. All you have is figments of the author's imagination, imitations of the onscreen characters. For example, I enjoyed the Zahn trilogy well enough, but I never got all worked up about it, because I knew that wasn't really Luke and Leia and Han in there. It was just Zahn's perception of them. Without Ford and Fisher and Hamill it wasn't really them.
And since Lucas denies ever having in mind a sequel trilogy the EU is a second best option. Therefore the sequel EU to me is canon.
For me, the EU is no option, because the characters aren't there. I don't need a sequel. I would have liked if Lucas had made a good sequel trilogy, but three great films is enough for me.
Because Lucas gave up on the fans who wanted to see more adventures of luke skywalker as star wars was always meant to be. And changed it into the 1-6 episode story crap of hayden vader.
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