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Post #361054

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Johnboy3434
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Hypothetical: What would you KEEP?
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21-May-2009, 12:30 PM
Vaderisnothayden said:

You're still not getting it. Canon exists independent of Lucasfilm's word. Canon is about what's the real thing, hence what's the real thing is the real canon. Anybody with a brain can take a stab at judging what's the real thing and thus what's the real canon. This is not about "personal canon", this is about the issue of what's the real Star Wars. I do not pick and choose to suit myself and then call that canon. I studied Star Wars works and the overall sitaution and then made my judgement on what I believe to be the real thing. And I believe in my view, after going through so much effort in judging and examining. I do not take some piece of EU and say "I like that, so it's canon". It's not the real thing, so it's not canon, WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT. What I like or don't like is irrelevant, what I want is irrelevant . What counts is what happens to be the real thing as judged by the standard of the films that made the legend. As for versions of the films, it is very obvious which versions of the films are the real thing. I don't pick to my taste there, I merely go by the original that made the legend.

As for what grinds your gears, judging from your posting now and in the past, what grinds your gears is somebody confidently expressing an opinion you don't agree with. And you react to this by getting insulting. And that grinds my gears.

BUT WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION? The idea of canon originated with the decision of which holy writings were considered inspired. That decision was made by people of authority, people who had intimate knowledge of the workings of language and history (such as it was back then). The point is, the people who made the decision had some degree of QUALIFICATION. You are a fan. I am a fan. We have no qualifications. In comparison with the people who made the decision on holy canon, we aren't the priests or the scribes. We're the farmhands tilling the soil. You speak of judging what's "real" Star Wars as though it were an objective process that any individual could go through and reach the same conclusion every time. I challenge, Hell, I DARE anyone here to detail this process in full without analyzing a single subjective quality. It can't be done, because this analysis and judgment is completely subjective on every level and can literally yield any result that includes some version of the original film. Why? Because other people view Star Wars in other ways, Vader. It is your personal canon, whether you say it is, whether you THINK it is, or not.

No, what grinds my gears is not a differing opinion. What grinds my gears is intellectual dishonesty. Those who own a franchise decide its canon. Now, always, and forever. This is inarguable.