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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Edit Suggestions — Page 32

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do you remember classic movies, where the newspaper rotates while the camera closes in from afar until the paper stops rotating and you can read the headline in close? Another interesting montage was seen near the beginning of Sky Captain, as far as I remember. Some kind of a newspaper montage in these fashions could perhaps be inserted between the happy family on top of the mountain and the Dean Stanforth bible sequence.

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I think this is an excellent suggestion. Their use is often in cross-dissolves with other action and the spinning headlines could be played over the action of Dean Stanforth going through Indy's office. I would recommend using several newspapers in a row-- tell the story one headline at a time as Stanforth moves along: "Suspected Red Professor Faces Hearing" "Committee Debates Fate of Marshall's Professor Jones" "University Apologizes to Jones; Reinstates Position".  (Not right, but that kind of thing?)

This "old fashioned" technique is perfectly in line with the "b" movies that inspired this series, like the "line on the map," the musical in Indy2 (which ID mercy-killed) and the whole character of Indiana Jones.

The downside is that none of the other movies do it.  That doesn't bother me considering how much good it would do here.

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Just sent ImpFight the message that the frames he wanted are uploaded, he can begin to post.

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Laserschwert said:

Just for fun:

Sorry for the late answer, but i just wanted to say it looked amazing.

I was really disappointed with the openign credits when I first saw the movie one year ago. I really expected the Indy font like you did on this frame.

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KOTCS suffers from a lot of non-sense (escape a nuke in a fridge? c'moooon!) but if you are going to replace foolishness to try to get it better, you could change the music of mariachis in Perú (unheard of) to actual peruvian music (much different) also that foolishness of "working my way through mayan" crap, they are not even similar languages much less "workable" that's just stupid!

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Here's a quick mock-up of what a newspaper montage as I've mentioned above might look like. It's the wrong headline, I know... ;-)

Not sure though if the timing of the movie at this point would allow for such an alteration.

http://www.losbastardos.de/download/mock_indy_cs_newspaper.jpg

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I like the "Indy Font" as much as the next guy, but they really only used it onscreen in TOD. We'd all be screaming bloody murder if Lucasfim had gone back and slapped that "new" title font on Raiders. ;)

I wanted to suggest that a newsreel style montage would be more 1950's
 than the newspaper whirl. Lift some stock footage from something involving the red scare (a congressional hearing?) and use the shot of Indy and Marion going down the Capitol steps at the end of Raiders, behind a headline graphic of Indy being cleared of all charges. (The better to hide their younger appearance!)

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Where were you in '77?

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Ooh, what's the story on that stand-in newspaper?

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Tobar said:

Ooh, what's the story on that stand-in newspaper?

 

....and where the heck is Mapleton?

 

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doubleofive -  I'll need to get back to you about something when I can.

Don't know when, as I'm up to my eyes in stuff for the next day or two.  It's the curse of the skull I tells ya....

 

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Laserschwert said:

Just for fun:

Sorry for the late answer, but i just wanted to say it looked amazing.

I was really disappointed with the openign credits when I first saw the movie one year ago. I really expected the Indy font like you did on this frame.

 

See... I'd have been disappointed if we'd had the Indy logo font (as above), rather than the font used in Crystal Skull, Raiders and Crusade. I like the continuity of it. Temple is the only film which uses the logo.

 

(EDIT: Seems I'm not the first to mention this, Meh)

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I'm not too sure myself cause I think we don't have enough "flesh" around this montage to make it work properly. The newspaper itself wouldn't necessarily have to rotate, it could also crossdissolve, move from left to right, pop up out of thin air - there are many possibilities. I wouldn't have a problem with adding something new to the series if it's done well, but if there's another way to fix this story glitch that works more seamless and does the same trick, I'm all for it.

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Yeah. I agree. Which is why I think putting the newspaper on the desk is really the only way to go. This would be a nice touch, but far from REQUIRED. 

Laser mentioned some possible issues with the camera zoom if we were to put the newspaper on the desk though...

List of propsed changes to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Kingdom-of-the-Crystal-Skull-Edit-Suggestions/topic/9732/

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jones1899 said:

Double, glad to hear the upload is ready for Imp. Hopefully we see something soon. 

 

Yup, so here it is!  ;)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/IF-Indy4/Indy4-49.jpg

 

Thanks for sorting me out with all the shots already doubleofive!  It looks like you got every one perfectly.  :)

The coding issues seem to be resolved now too, so I can continue 'drafting' out this while that other little thing is seen to.

Just how the gopher fits in, will have to wait till then....  ;)

 

 

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Would be fun to have the car wheels rolling over that cute gopher. Add some blood and you'll have the perfect "fan-revenge" shot for a Indy 4 edit!

Just kidding. I am one of the few that does not care much about the gophers.

Looking forward to your idea for the final, Imp!

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TMBTM said:

Would be fun to have the car wheels rolling over that cute gopher. Add some blood and you'll have the perfect "fan-revenge" shot for a Indy 4 edit!

Just kidding. I am one of the few that does not care much about the gophers.

Laser already posted that very shot on this thread.

 

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jones1899 said:

So when can we expect to see the something?

 

Well doubleofive has kindly done a little something extra that I asked for, so I have everything I need to suggest my preferred 'beginning' and 'ending' now.  Despite a busy schedule this week, I'm aiming to find time to finish it all off, and post all my comments here no later than 5 days from today.

Bear in mind, I'm not adding anything to the existing footage in any way, just altering what's already there, somewhat.

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ImperialFighter said:

Bear in mind, I'm not adding anything to the existing footage in any way, just altering what's already there, somewhat.

Yes, I believe you may have mentioned that once or twice.  ;)

The majority of fan edits are like that, so I think the paranoia might be a little misplaced.

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Uncanny Antman said:
ImperialFighter said:

Bear in mind, I'm not adding anything to the existing footage in any way, just altering what's already there, somewhat.

Yes, I believe you may have mentioned that once or twice.  ;)

The majority of fan edits are like that, so I think the paranoia might be a little misplaced.

 

As it's been mentioned by more than one potential 'KOTCS' editor that they are unsure about how to alter the current 'ending', and considering the amount of speculation about the possibility of adding 'Spalko visions' and 'newspaper headlines' to the mix, I just didn't want jones1899 thinking I'd be eventually showing something that involved either of those scenarios, when I answered his query.  Simply that, Ant.

However, if there eventually happens to be any edits with additional elements such as those included, then I look forward to seeing how they turn out.

 

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Histeria said:
TMBTM said:

Would be fun to have the car wheels rolling over that cute gopher. Add some blood and you'll have the perfect "fan-revenge" shot for a Indy 4 edit!

Just kidding. I am one of the few that does not care much about the gophers.

Laser already posted that very shot on this thread.

 

 

 Oups...

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ughh! How much longer are we gonna have to wait to see this fan-edit!