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adywan said:

Sevb32 said:

Bingowings said:

adywan said:

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

yeh, its turned out that way. but ESB pales into comparison to what i have to do for ROTJ:R. I'll be scratch building a 4ft approx stardestroyer so i can get some of the new Fx sequences i want to get done. And thats just for starters

Earlier I was chatting about how much a shame it is that after building that huge model we only saw one side of the ROTJ Death Star and how it would be impossible to build it again and you come on here and talk about 4ft Star Destroyer models.

After building it I can see you being tempted to go back and fiddle with ESB:R and ANH:R (imagine what shots you could do with such a resource).

 

 

Still I wish he would get help, surely after showing someone ANH:R and ESB:R they'd be willing to help him with the modeling work. I'm betting someone in the U.K. has some of these already built. It's looking like at least another 5 years or more before it (ROTJ:R) will be released.

but i've stated before i enjoy building stuff like this. so what if ROTJ:R does take another 5 years to be released. I'd rather it turned out the way i want it to rather than a half assed effort. i've also said a few times why i won't borrow anyone elses models. its just not a risk i am willing to take.

 

With all due respect, it's cool to enjoy building this stuff, but it all costs money, and sure you could build some of it, but I am sure some people would donate their time and/or models & skills to helping out. Maybe this will encourage some people to get to work on some things, get people who are not gonna worry if their models get banged up a bit while filming. I'd like to see this before I die, and I don't wanna be 50 to 60 years old when I do. Life is too short.

You 've said you don't wanna add things "just because you can" but explain to me the real difference, that gray area, is everything absolutely necessary? Just like not everything in ANH:R was absolutely necessary. Not that I didn't think it was terrific, because it sure was. I guess the key thing is OPINION, not fact.

oh_riginal said:

G E Predator said:

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

 

 

 

 

 

CANNOT WAIT FOR THE TRAILER BTW.

I would say so.  Even though I think ESB is fine as it is on the DVDs, I'm anxious to see what Adywan can cook up for ESB:R

 

Considering the changes we've seen with the asteroid chase, the transport escape, cloud city, and Yoda's facial movements, I think a lot of us were wrong in assuming ESB was perfect as-is.

Hell, the color correction alone is worthy of high praise!

 

There really is no "right" or "wrong", just "a matter of opinion."  And in mine, I think Empire is the best of all six not just in the special effects but also in the movie's incredible plot.

adywan said:

Sevb32 said:

It's cool to enjoy building this stuff, but it all costs money, and sure you could build some of it, but I am sure some people would donate their time and/or models & skills to helping out. Maybe this will encourage some people to get to work on some things, get people who are not gonna worry if their models get banged up a bit while filming. I'd like to see this before I die, and I don't wanna be 50 to 60 years old when I do. Life is too short.

You 've said you don't wanna add things "just because you can" but explain to me the real difference, that gray area, is everything absolutely necessary? Just like not everything in ANH:R was absolutely necessary. Not that I didn't think it was terrific, because it sure was. I guess the key thing is OPINION, not fact.

"I cannot teach him. This boy has not patience." (just kidding)

why rush something just to get it out there when i could take a little more time and money to do it right. Sure there are only a few things that need replacing in ESB:R. you can't argue that the asteroid canyon and Rebel shield generator desperately need replacing along with the rebel hangar mattes. the best way to do this is with models.

Now Jedi needs a lot of work. this is supposed to be the finale to the whole saga yet the whole battle is pretty lame and seems rushed. It seemed more concentrated on the Ewoks than the struggle the Rebel fleet was having in orbit. it should have been the other way around. This should be the battle to end all battles...and it will be. There will be the new ending that completes the saga. you will get to see the reason why they seem to be celebrating around the galaxy so early after the Death Star was destroyed. I need to use models for some of the replacements and extra shots. i don't want to fully use CGI. I haven't yet seen a CGI stardestroyer on the net that looked as convincing as a real model. sure the smaller ships can be replaced by CGI but i don't want a fully CGI scene as it just won't fit in. Having the larger ships be real models and smaller ships be CGI will create a great balance that will fit with the original FX.

If ROTJ:R takes the longest to do then so be it. I have a vision of how i want ROTJ:R to turn out and i have to be prepared to put the extra work in to accomplish this. i'm not going to cut corners just to get the movie out as soon as possible because people are becoming impatient.I will never be working on these films again once they are done. there will be no special editions or revisited. So it has to be done right the first time around because i don't want to be sitting there watching them in a few years time saying " damn i wish i had done this or that" because my whole purpose for doing these edits is to do the versions i wanted to see , and if i begin to wish i'd taken a bit more time and added something else then i would have failed.

 

 

But truth told I think we could work on any film the rest of our lives and still find things we could improve or make better with technology, it's just time that stops, films are not really released, they escape.  I just wanna see those weird matte lines erased that cover up the tracks when those two speeder bikes take off! (If you know the scene I am talking about.) If you'd fix that one like 5 sec shot first for me I'd be a happy man and be able to wait 5 years more comfortable, lol but also serious.

Ya, and if you're like me, I just pray that nothing happens to Ady during this decades long revisited process! No Ady, no fixed Star Wars movies. And like Sev whatever his name is, I hope nothing happens to any of us that anticipate these movies and there release over the next 10-15 years. I completely understand getting it right the first time, but I also identify with the anticipation and hope that it will all come together one day, and that I will be blessed enough to still be around to see the movies! Life is very fragile, and we live in a fairly jacked up world, tomorrow is never promised, so please Ady let someone help you, let someone comb the wampa, anything!! Ahh just kidding, but come on....we are Star Wars freaks, we just want to see the movies that Lucas should have given us a long time ago! In the end, we just check this forum everyday or so, and wait for the next trailer, etc., and that's all we can do, but it's better than the alternative! Peace...

ady, if i find anything and u give me the stuff, i'll build a cgi star destroyer for u. i'm at ITT College and learning a lot about that stuff!

just thought i'd throw it out there :)

Now there's an idea for a contest. have people build spaceship models and the winner can have theirs be inserted into a space battle scene.

Considering this is now going to have all new model work, and ROTJ: R will have even more, and big story changes, I wonder how it'll be in ten years time when ROTS: R is out, with all the experience, skill and new tech Adywan will have gotten in that time, and he might look at ANH: R, and I think "I can do better than that", and starts up ANH: R 2, and the whole thing starts over again.

P.S. That was a very long sentence.

adywan said:

Now Jedi needs a lot of work. this is supposed to be the finale to the whole saga yet the whole battle is pretty lame and seems rushed. It seemed more concentrated on the Ewoks than the struggle the Rebel fleet was having in orbit. it should have been the other way around. This should be the battle to end all battles...and it will be. There will be the new ending that completes the saga. you will get to see the reason why they seem to be celebrating around the galaxy so early after the Death Star was destroyed. I need to use models for some of the replacements and extra shots. i don't want to fully use CGI. I haven't yet seen a CGI stardestroyer on the net that looked as convincing as a real model. sure the smaller ships can be replaced by CGI but i don't want a fully CGI scene as it just won't fit in. Having the larger ships be real models and smaller ships be CGI will create a great balance that will fit with the original FX.

If ROTJ:R takes the longest to do then so be it. I have a vision of how i want ROTJ:R to turn out and i have to be prepared to put the extra work in to accomplish this. i'm not going to cut corners just to get the movie out as soon as possible because people are becoming impatient.I will never be working on these films again once they are done. there will be no special editions or revisited. So it has to be done right the first time around because i don't want to be sitting there watching them in a few years time saying " damn i wish i had done this or that" because my whole purpose for doing these edits is to do the versions i wanted to see , and if i begin to wish i'd taken a bit more time and added something else then i would have failed.

"This should be the battle to end all battles...and it will be."

Now there's a mission statement from Adywan that we should all be fired-up about!

While there'll be plenty of opportunity to discuss 'ROTJ:R' in general once it's thread comes around, his intention to round off the final movie in the saga's story like this will be worth whatever period of time it takes for Adywan to get round to it.  Like many here, I too wish to see all this sooner rather than later (yesterday would have been nice), but this whole endevour isn't primarily for the benefit of others, but is for Adywan's own personal satisfaction.  Luckily for us all though, he has chosen to share the results of his efforts for those interested.  Considering the hugely ambitious amount of ideas and 'fixes' that he is working into his versions, the fact that he seems to have an amazing workrate on these already, means that we will see his efforts as soon as is reasonably possible.

This mainly one-man creative effort  requires a ridiculous amount of planning, work, dedication, and time by the barrowload, and we are getting something wonderful out of that eventually.  So even if Adywan want's to attempt to build his own full-scale 'Death Star' from scratch to achieve a shot he wants to do, while I wouldn't mind if he borrowed one off the Emperor himself to achieve a similar shot, I realise the fun and satisfaction of making his own if that's what he chooses.  This is a personal project for Adywan, and I can understand that a large part of the kick he is getting out of this ongoing endevour will be the 'process' of doing most things hands-on himself.  That takes longer of course, but it's a huge part of the satisfaction for him I'm sure, which makes doing this project even more worthwhile for him.  And yes, he gets to keep his own 'Death Star' if that's what he chooses. 

I've seen enough of Adywan's work now to look forward to the fact that the new props and miniatures will actually be of his own making, as this makes this whole, mad, years-long project even more incredible than it already is.  It'll be ready when it's ready, and I'll happily wait for Adywan to achieve his usually excellent 'creative choices', no matter how long that takes.

So less Ewok focus, and more Rebel fleet focus then?....with an intended mix of miniatures and CGI, rather than all-CGI?  WOW!  And I thought the wait for 'Empire:R's release was going to be hard to endure....  ;)

Concerning models versus cgi, I'm glad ady is gooing the model route. I am still of the opinion that models look better thn cg, at least with bigger ships, because they are actually there. Something about them actually existing rather than just being rendered in a computer. For instance, I thought most capital ships in the pt looked fake, like from a video game.