adywan said:
Janskeet said:
I really don't see what the big deal is.

try being a male (by this i mean one that actually cares that he has fathered a child) who gets a female pregnant and has no say whatsoever if she wants to abort your child. Abortion has become as readily available over here as the contraception pill.

This actually happened to someone I know. His girlfriend found out she was pregnant. They had originally wanted to have a child and he was ready and willing to take care of it. She went and got an abortion because she changed her mind and since they weren't married, she didn't have to consult him. He broke up with her.

Is the rest of this thread for real? I've never seen so much hate spewed forth from people that say they're moderates. Abortion as a form of population control? Government mandated limits on children? We don't have to guess where that leads to, just look at China. They have an out of control male population since they're only allowed one child, so they kill their daughters if they happen to have a girl. It's completely barbaric. Honestly, I have no problem putting limits on people that receive welfare, but if you want to have 14 kids and take care of them all yourself, go right ahead and do it.