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Post #359198

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skyjedi2005
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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10-May-2009, 11:44 AM

So it is a seperate continuity from classic trek and invalidates the past of trek as well as treks future i.e. the next generation. 

Still we have our favorite movies and tv shows on dvd and coming to blu ray.   Don't like the new movie don't give the paramount suits your money.

 

I for one was suprised to read a review on Amazon.com from another person who like me liked Enterprise and especially its fourth season.  He talked about how that show was very close in spirit to Roddenberry and how the new film is just brainless sellout action flick.  I thought i was the only one who would compare this to Starship Troopers or the redo of lost in space, other people agreed with me there,lol.

 

To me its like the star wars prequels, and transformers and every other garbage cgi action flick rolled into one.  I will never give Orci a dollar of my money that guy has to be the single biggest hack since Koepp, or Akiva Goldsman. 

 

Not only that the score is better suited as a tv score and not for an action EPIC.  Everything about this film while its not terrible as a seperate continuity and reboot screams star trek lite.  Its heavy on the jokes and the humor, very fast paced and sexy.  But it has no soul.

 

The acting is okay to excellent in some parts.  Dialogue is passable usually until Orci puts in his little jokes for fratboys.  The Effects are stunning.  But the shaky cam and lens flares give you a godamn headache, or just make you want to smack some sense into the camera person.

The Young Cast is somewhat likeable when they are not hamming it up for the cameras or doing impersonations of the old actors.  They are not replacements for those actors and those versions of the characters, but an alternate take.  This movie is like one of those marvel comics what If? rather than a true backstory for the trek we know. 

They could have done that movie and made a few trekkies happy and lost money.  Instead they did the mainstream thing and decided to make some money for once.

 

Simon Pegg is damn funny playing a bumbling fool.  Not unlike Scotty in star trek V, thanks to shatner " I know this ship like the back of my hand".

Instead we get " I'm giving you all she's got captain" "I like this ship it's exciting" and " Can i get a towel" LOL

The biggest laugh i had was watching Spocklar say " How did you beam aboard this ship.  We are at warp speed."  and Pine " well i'm not telling acting captain"  Spock "Under penalty of court martial how did you board this ship while we were at warp" Kirk to Scotty " don't answer him"  Spock "you Will answer me!"

 

If star trek is this years dark knight it is safe to say hollywood is not even trying anymore.  Though this film will probably kick wolverines ass since that movie almost universally critics and fans has gotten negative reviews.

Biggest joke of all and this Is a spoiler.  Spock created the Kobayashi Maru scenario, lol.  I don't recall that being mentioned in the wrath of khan.

And the Spock and Spock prime thing is a little bit much.  Too much like a reference to a bad comic book idea in DC comics.  Where you had superboy and superboy prime, or superman or superman prime or some such nonsense.  And of course the retcon super punch. Which in this film is the paradox of time travel.

It worked and was somewhat interesting and amusing in Back to the Future II a lesser sequel to the original.  In this film its merely an excuse to start over because unlike in the back to the future trilogy the real timeline is not restored.  Spock's traveling from the future was pointless.  He did not save vulcan or his mom. These are not the same people on this Enterprise he served with he has no friendship or allegiance to a Jim Kirk of an alternate reality or timeline.  And it is competely out of spock's character to violate the temporal prime directive for personal reasons.

Besides the Enterprise E and Picard should have been able to blow him to kingdom come before he timewarped, or followed him into the past like they did in first contact.

Spock goes it alone because his jellyfish ship is the only ship that can intercept nero, hogwash. Sounds like lazy storytelling to me.