The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 48

That's a good idea.

oh and Bail is looking a bit pink there. Otherwise it looks pretty decent [imo]

here is an idea for ep III in the scene of the clones storming the jedi temple, remove anakin from it so instad palpatine sends anakin immediately to mustafa to kill the seperatist

guitarfan01 said:

ben_danger said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

It's funny because the other day I was playing with the Yoda escape scene and I cut the Yoda line completely. This, again, is another lets-spell-it-out-for-the-audience piece of dialouge. We *know* he failed. And why tell us he must go into exile when it would be much more interesting for us as the audience to wonder where he is up until ESB.

So are you suggesting that when Obiwan meets up with Yoda and Bail the *first* time in ROTS that it *not* be somewhere in space but actually be on dagobah? Because THAT could work...

So it could be like:

Obi: my clones turned on me...

Bail: we're sending you our coordinates...

-wipe to dagobah with Obiwan landing and continue with scene on board the tantive

-continue movie as is until we leave mustafar

-no asteroid planet thingy. instead yoda and bail are back at dagobah hiding and waiting for obiwan

Bail: we'll take her to the medical station...

-medical station is now on board the tantive...which is on dagobah

Hmm?

 

that sounds much better, perhaps a throw away line could be made from yoda, though im not sure if it is necessary, just like 'this place is hidden from the force' or something as such to explain why they are there. the claustrophobic atmosphere of the planet should be enough to show that they are hiding. i can't stop thinking about mattes of having headlights illuminating the scarily dark planet.

i definitely agree on having yoda not mention the exile buisness. having obi wan, bail (and padme, corpse or uncorpse) going their seperate ways, will hopefully force a 'loose end' that will get tied up in ESB. it makes yodas insane chatter seem so much more dark now, thinking he has just been losing it in lonliness for 20 years!

how hard would it be i wonder to remove padme from the table? it would be cool to have her give birth outside, though a logical reason would be hard to grasp. i really like the idea of 'it is too dangerous to deliver the babies in space' dialogue.

 

cant wait to see the next installment of SSWR. for the record i still cant stop thinking of the bugs life clip, my girlfriend keeps on chanting it whenever it appears in the films!:P

I vote against the "it is too dangerous to have the babies in space" line: it's ridiculous (a society so advanced but they can't afford to have a baby in space? come on), it's exposition instead of just doing it, and it would obviously be there just to make sure they land on Dagobah just to tie it in with the OT.  Like too many things in the PT already.  I love the landing/meeting on Dagobah idea, and really really like the way SSWR mentioned it, with Dagobah kind of existing as a "Force-cloaked" hideaway for them after Order 66 and everything goes to crap.

Davnes, that's a good mockup for translating the same basic beats as the original film to Dagobah.  However, if we/you are radically reduxing (ha) the Prequels, then is it an intention to try to preserve the revelations of the OT (Vader is Luke's father and Leia = sister) as much a surprise as possible?  That's always been on my wishlist for every prequel fanedit, that it would create a version that I could watch with my (hypothetical) kids who had never seen Star Wars before, in numerical order, and they would feel as gutpunched as I did when I first heard "No, Luke, I am your father."

It would be epic if we could keep the Vader name from ever being applied (onscreen) to Anakin, and made it look like Vader was actually another Jedi Palpatine had turned either in the years between Ep.III and IV, or even before he took Anakin as an apprentice, with Anakin just another puppet to destabilize the galaxy or somesuch.  I know I'm grasping at straws here, just kind of spitballing ideas, seeing what sticks to the wall, you know, but the point is to set up the end of ROTS in some fashion that indicates that Vader is not Anakin, and that Anakin did indeed die on Mustafar as Obi-Wan expected him too.  He probably wouldn't have even made the connection himself until facing Vader later (whether during the in between period or at the final confrontation on the Death Star).  The EU (and I'm not sure how much this radical redux would draw from it) has definately established that there were plenty of Dark Jedi helping out the Emperor, even beyond the "only two Sith" rule.

Also, the last ten minutes of ROTS, with it's frantic scramble to tie up as many loose ends as lamely and obviously as possible (not to mention furthering GL's landing platform fetish) absolutely grates on my nerves all the time now.  Just leave some ends loose, George!  We love to speculate!

The only way I can think of preserving the Vader surprise and keep the iconic Obi-Wan/Vader fight is something like this (Maul covered his face with ink but we know Vader didn't do that from ROTJ so a mask seems to make sense) :

But Lord help the poor bugger who tries it.

You'd have to establish that Obi-Wan had other pupils (not just Anakin), the dreaded, "you were my greatest student" cliche' and then go through every frame of the final duel and cover Anakin up so you assume he died saving Mace (and as I said before because Palpatine is so confident of his new apprentice turning you could have him refer to Vader before Anakin's final fall).

So much hard work just to cover up George's terrible screw ups.

Sorry about the sabre btw.

I did suggest that some how it could be implied that Vader is Grievous (if Lucas had made that character a masked humanoid it would have been so much easier to do) and the otherwise stupid Sith eyes idea would have helped uphold this illusion if the General had the same eyes.

I suppose if the Tantive is to land on Dagobah it would be the ideal spot for Qui-Gon to make an appearence too (he need not speak at the same time even if he does look like he is breaking into song in this mock-up):

vaderios said:

Photoshop always :D

I just drag and drop it. i use Cs3. For some weird reason Cs4 dont support or whatever.

I import .mov files

Angel

WOW!! this is amazing! its like a poor mans AE that my small capacity for logical thought can process!!

i have found the window that allows me to scroll through frame by frame, but what tool do you use to do the color correction? and is there a way to apply a modification to a bunch of frames as oppose to doing it frame by frame? (going to have a stab at some lightsaber recolouration and slave 1s engines!)

i know the first shot was a bit green, but i still like it a bit more. i think its because the dark shadows arnt as strong.

lol bingo

The hills are alive with the sound of music!

Would it be possible to drop a Tantive IV hallway into the background of that med centre shot?

shanerjedi said:

lol bingo

The hills are alive with the sound of music!

I thought he looks more like the lost Bee Gee.

Bingowings said:

shanerjedi said:

lol bingo

The hills are alive with the sound of music!

I thought he looks more like the lost Bee Gee.

 

Whether I'm a jedi or whether I'm a mogwai I'll be stayin alive, stayin alive

The sith has us shakin and the senates now a quakin but I'll be stayin alive, stayin alive.

Ha, ha, ha ha, I'm stayin alive.... stayin alive

Ha, ha, ha, ha, I'm stayin aliiiiiihhhhhiiiiivvve.

I'm stayin alive.

SSWR

That was very good also.

shanerjedi said:

lol bingo

 

The hills are alive with the sound of music!

 

Would it be possible to drop a Tantive IV hallway into the background of that med centre shot?

looks like Skydrive has mucked up the colours but you get the general idea (ideal for mercy missions):

Cool.

Needs more blue! Needs more cyan!

Blue lasers, blue sabers, blue lava, blue milk!

And even......blue YODA!!!!! Take that Blue Yoda haters!

I love blue!

j/k! About making everything blue.

I do love blue though. Electric blue specifically.

So I'm on your blue team vaderios

:D :p

Volcano footage? Hmmm.....not right off the top of me head. I mean there were those movies from the '90's Dante's Peak and Volcano. I dont know about usable footage from them though.

Almost need to look at Nature programs maybe. National geographic videos, etc.

I'm going to get behind bingowings suggestion that Maul and Greivous = the same person.

If done correctly( a tall order I agree) it will strengthen the entire PT narrative IMHO.

edit

What if Mustafar is a hideout for the Sith and the buildings  and everything are sithy?

Sidious could send the seperatists to hide on what they think is a safe haven, his own hideout.

that is definitly an improvement vaderios! i cant thank you enough for revealing the wonderment which is photoshop video editting!

continuing in the mustafar = sith hideout, you could have the background to the Maul/Palpious conversation on the Coruscant balcony now take place on mustafar with the volcanoes in the background.

The idea is to connect the PT films together and also preserve the Cosurscant reveal until the heroes go there. We see it when they see it.

heres a go at that one

ben_danger said:

mustafar sith idea (platform would require changing, thanks for the greeny goodness vaderios!)

 

Cool! Thx for that ben_danger.

I suppose Sidious would have to be a hologram though to explain the distance.

Seriously though, what is up with Coruscant security? Can sith lords just waltz in and out?

And wouldn't that dark side concentration on the same planet alert at least one jedi?

Lucas made the jedi so clueless in these films.

IG-88 and 4-LOM would beg to differ with you on that one SSWR ;-)