ben_danger said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
It's funny because the other day I was playing with the Yoda escape scene and I cut the Yoda line completely. This, again, is another lets-spell-it-out-for-the-audience piece of dialouge. We *know* he failed. And why tell us he must go into exile when it would be much more interesting for us as the audience to wonder where he is up until ESB.
So are you suggesting that when Obiwan meets up with Yoda and Bail the *first* time in ROTS that it *not* be somewhere in space but actually be on dagobah? Because THAT could work...
So it could be like:
Obi: my clones turned on me...
Bail: we're sending you our coordinates...
-wipe to dagobah with Obiwan landing and continue with scene on board the tantive
-continue movie as is until we leave mustafar
-no asteroid planet thingy. instead yoda and bail are back at dagobah hiding and waiting for obiwan
Bail: we'll take her to the medical station...
-medical station is now on board the tantive...which is on dagobah
Hmm?
that sounds much better, perhaps a throw away line could be made from yoda, though im not sure if it is necessary, just like 'this place is hidden from the force' or something as such to explain why they are there. the claustrophobic atmosphere of the planet should be enough to show that they are hiding. i can't stop thinking about mattes of having headlights illuminating the scarily dark planet.
i definitely agree on having yoda not mention the exile buisness. having obi wan, bail (and padme, corpse or uncorpse) going their seperate ways, will hopefully force a 'loose end' that will get tied up in ESB. it makes yodas insane chatter seem so much more dark now, thinking he has just been losing it in lonliness for 20 years!
how hard would it be i wonder to remove padme from the table? it would be cool to have her give birth outside, though a logical reason would be hard to grasp. i really like the idea of 'it is too dangerous to deliver the babies in space' dialogue.
cant wait to see the next installment of SSWR. for the record i still cant stop thinking of the bugs life clip, my girlfriend keeps on chanting it whenever it appears in the films!:P
I vote against the "it is too dangerous to have the babies in space" line: it's ridiculous (a society so advanced but they can't afford to have a baby in space? come on), it's exposition instead of just doing it, and it would obviously be there just to make sure they land on Dagobah just to tie it in with the OT. Like too many things in the PT already. I love the landing/meeting on Dagobah idea, and really really like the way SSWR mentioned it, with Dagobah kind of existing as a "Force-cloaked" hideaway for them after Order 66 and everything goes to crap.
Davnes, that's a good mockup for translating the same basic beats as the original film to Dagobah. However, if we/you are radically reduxing (ha) the Prequels, then is it an intention to try to preserve the revelations of the OT (Vader is Luke's father and Leia = sister) as much a surprise as possible? That's always been on my wishlist for every prequel fanedit, that it would create a version that I could watch with my (hypothetical) kids who had never seen Star Wars before, in numerical order, and they would feel as gutpunched as I did when I first heard "No, Luke, I am your father."
It would be epic if we could keep the Vader name from ever being applied (onscreen) to Anakin, and made it look like Vader was actually another Jedi Palpatine had turned either in the years between Ep.III and IV, or even before he took Anakin as an apprentice, with Anakin just another puppet to destabilize the galaxy or somesuch. I know I'm grasping at straws here, just kind of spitballing ideas, seeing what sticks to the wall, you know, but the point is to set up the end of ROTS in some fashion that indicates that Vader is not Anakin, and that Anakin did indeed die on Mustafar as Obi-Wan expected him too. He probably wouldn't have even made the connection himself until facing Vader later (whether during the in between period or at the final confrontation on the Death Star). The EU (and I'm not sure how much this radical redux would draw from it) has definately established that there were plenty of Dark Jedi helping out the Emperor, even beyond the "only two Sith" rule.
Also, the last ten minutes of ROTS, with it's frantic scramble to tie up as many loose ends as lamely and obviously as possible (not to mention furthering GL's landing platform fetish) absolutely grates on my nerves all the time now. Just leave some ends loose, George! We love to speculate!
