Sojourn said:
focuspuller said:
I see nothing wrong with asking for donations (within reason), or offering clips (exclusive or otherwise), I do however think that combinig the two is dangerous, for you, and this project. If someone wanted to make a case against a project like this, this would be one of the ways of doing so.

I greatly support and respect this project, so I speak bluntly, but I mean no offense. I just think you should cover your bases and be careful to a degree.

I understand what you're saying, but I think the difference here is that whatever he's giving to the donators will eventually be released to everyone, for free. It's not like he's giving away a special deleted scene, or an alternate edit of the project, or something like that, which contains copyrighted material not owned by him, that only the donators would get (which could lead to the argument that they were buying the footage). He's just showing it to the donators early. I've seen other fan projects do this before; Ryan Vs. Dorkman 2 is a notable and successful example.

Take care,
Sojourn

Right, but that's not my point. All of that is moot in a legal scenario. Accepting donations for a project involving copyrighted material of any kind whether we like the reasons or not is essentially illegal. That is the clear reality. Then the whole donation concept is taken a step further with a donation incentive, offering an "exclusive clip" to those who donate. In other words a clip in exchange for a donation. In other words money bieng accepted while copyrighted material is passed, whether it be 5 minutes or 2 hours makes no difference.

I'm on Adywan's side, but the lines of action have to be clear.

Again, Ady, I'm not trying to repay you for your work with a slap in the face. Quite opposite infact. But I think that my points are valid and should be kept in mind.

Now, getting back to the subject at hand, I thought that the clip was great. I love the new cloads. The only thing that took me out of the shot was a cut from the red ship flying towards the screen (away from cloud city) to a red ship flying around the city itself. But it all looks great.