an awsome fan vid!

Its great for a fan film.  But it seems like they are trying to copy the PJ style and even the voices of the original actors.

I would like to see more official films or fanfilms based on Tolkiens projects.   There have been scarce few fanfilms or fanfiction because the Tolkien estate could always get their lawyers to send a cease and desist.

I guess usually as long as no profit is made nothing happens.  But there are cases where even non profits get shut down.

Since the Tolkien family is not being paid for the unauthorized use of characters, and adapting a work of his fiction.  Also the Sael Zaentz company that holds all film rights under the name tolkien enterprises i am sure will bring the hammer down once they see this film.

They obviously do not want competition in any way when they are busy making the Hobbit films with Del Toro. 

There is still that pending legal matter of breach of contract the tolkien estate is rumored to bring against tolkien entrprises and new line for not paying the 8% of royalties due to the estate for films that grossed billions.  Christopher Tolkien was not happy with the liberties Peter Jackson took with the material and obviously would be more than happy to prevent the hobbit from ever being released.

Lets say that situation has already been dissolved secretely, he will still never allow anyone to film any part of the silmarillion and has it as a protected work for up to a hundred years.

The only parts of the Silmarillion allowed for use are the bits and pieces in the lord of the rings appendices and the mention of the events of them in the text.

Wow, that is actually kind of impressive. The guy who plays Gandalf sounds like he is trying to hard. But my goodness, that guy who play Aragorn looks a good deal like Viggo Mortensen. And for a fan film, those Orcs look damn good. I am please to see it comes out tomorrow! I shall most definitely be giving it my 40 minutes.

Thanks for the heads up rcb.

From what i read it was made for 3000 bucks, with all the people working on it being unpaid.

Sort of like Star Trek Phase II in a way.

There are some impressive star wars fan films out there as well like Revelation, the Pink Five series, and the troops sequel IMPS.

Then there is that foreign film the dark revelation of something that has no english dilaogue and has to be watched entirely with subtitles.

skyjedi2005 said:

Sort of like Star Trek Phase II in a way.

*Shudders uncontrollably*

rcb said:

i just hate the corny acting and poor effects.

From my personal experience, that is all fan films ever are. I have never seen a fan film that was really worth anything. They all make amusing little pieces that fit nicely in with the typical youtube tripe, but never anything beyond that. Quite honestly, all the guy with any real talent are off making their own films based on original ideas.

Star Trek Phase II really proves my point. They try really hard, obviously have a budget, even managed to somehow get Paramount's blessing in the whole thing, even have guest stars that are real actors from the original series, and yet, the things are unwatchable! They are absolutely awful. If you wanted to torture me for information, the quickest way to do so would probably be to tie me in a chair in front of a monitor playing ST Phase II, and force my eyes open, and make me watch the things for more than ten minutes. I'd be spilling out my deepest darkest secrets, betraying my friends, family, and country, and begging for a sharp object so I could cut a few of my arteries and put an end to it all.

Phase II is really wish fulfillment largely for James Cawley.  He always wanted to sit in the center seat as a little boy and play James Tiberious Kirk.

So he funds the thing out of his own pocket so he can play Captain Kirk.

I find it truly bizarre actually as bizarre as those who dress up in star wars or star trek gear and go to conventions.

It would be the equivalent of a star wars fan putting up the money to do small little films and cast their own self as Luke Skywalker.  And somehow get lesser actors not the starring role actors from the original movies to appear.  Get some of the original effects artists and screenwriters as well,lol.

Cawley asked Shatner to do new Voyages/phase II, Shatner coyly refused saying something like " I'll leave that up to Walter and George."

He does not do non union work and would never conceive of taking an unpaid role or cameo.

Plus he wants to keep the door slammed shut on star trek that he closed himself when killing kirk in generations.  Now when he sees there is fame and money and the promise of a starring role in JJ's sequel which won't happen hes dreaming, he wants to play Kirk again.  Only because he does not want to be upstaged by his friend Leonard Nimoy.

Does he want to play Kirk Prime to Nimoy's Spock Prime?  Kirk died on Veridian 3 after leaving the nexus and was able to save the next generation, but not himself or the enterprise D.

IF picard was killed instead then Kirk would be the captain of the enterprise E at least according to tos fanboys who hate the next generation.

They could do it, sure, but my thoughts in that they wont. Because the people talented enough don't bother with SW. And I don't blame them. The market is so saturated with SW. Seven movies, a TV series, and a million already pre-existing fanfilms. If someone was going to make a halfway decent fan film by now, they would have done so already.

I for one couldn't care less about seeing an SW fan film, no matter how good it is.

I am watching the The Hunt for Gollum right now, and as someone who is not a fan of nerdy obsessive fan made fan films, I have to say this is THE best fan film I have every seen, and ever expect to see. There were actually moments when I forgot I was watching a fan film (and of course others that completely reminded me I was). Gollum was well done, but not well enough done where they ever showed his face, just distance shots and the back of his head. One very breif frame where they do show is face (when his head pops out of Aragorns bag), it was very obviously a shot from one of the LOTR films, and it looked really odd and out of place.

Yeah, I saw that now. I was just a few minutes before the end when I made that post. The Gollum model the guy had actually looked pretty decent. Not sure why the scene where Gollum's head pops out of the bag looked so awful.

rcb said:

 

that was a cool movie though, i'm surprised. lets do a movie all about yoda! wouldn't that be neat? :)

I cannot stress how very much it wouldn't.

I've wanted to see one about Yoda when he was young and reckless. ;)

Your wish is my command! Behold, a Yoda movie,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlIQxL5dLmE