The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 40

Imagine ths architecture slightly modified to be something Naboo or maybe a Jedi Palace

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avi_abrams/1473854046/sizes/o/

vaderios said:

Really i cant wait to find some time to make a good dramatic new matte for jabba's palace with new elements and location.

i can't wait either!;)

just been thinking more down the jabba path. someone a while ago suggested posibly amalgimating geonosis and tatooine in some context. if so, the execution of padme/anakin, could be presided over by JABBA himself. maybe swap that droopy mosquito king with jabba? the palace, and area around tatooine that is seen in ROTJ could be tweaked to include an arena perhaps, just as AOTC could also be modified.

imagine he is like an ex lord of many worlds, once great before the clone wars, now ruined to strike deals with scum and smugglers.

There was the bit in the ROTJ novel where he did say he used to kill Luke's kind(jedi kinghts).

That might fit into it.

edit:

Pretty cool space:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avi_abrams/835036094/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avi_abrams/834161623/sizes/o/

Maybe an underground lair of some kind?

concrete moria!

Here's maybe a aerial shot of the Naboo Palace:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/langooney/384697550/

And foggy Coruscant, maybe outside the Chancellor's window?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/our_dubai_property_investment/71214523/in/set-1531412/

A Tatooine sandstorm?

http://www.sunbelt-software.com/stu/iraq/sandstorm.htm

yeah, it was in the above comic adaptation and the ROTJ novelization.

That should be added to ROTJ. Would be a great addition. And makes Jabba seem more ruthless and cunning.

No, you can create another reason via reshuffling some dialogue

magnoliafan already showed this very thing with his edit of TPM.

It not only can be done. It already has been.

ive had a stab at a little video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Knw5fyJV8&feature=channel_page

based on the idea of having JABBA as a seperatist goon

features:

JABBA enstead of, whoever mr reverse talking mosquito king was

removal of music

insertion of crowd noise (need a better source than an american football game though!)

execution drums to act as music to build tension

a tiny bit of colour correction, in one of the shots.

i used JasonN's TOTR for the AOTC footage as it was the only avi version to hand, so thanks go to him for the better pacing of those scenes.

nice mock-up, ben_danger!

I like the idea of having the Hutts being a part of the Separatists. It makes a lot of sense for the greedy Hutts to join the Separatists which consists of other greedy factions like the Trade Federation.

I'd keep Jabba in the background though, and keep Poggle making the announcement in the arena. Geonosis is his planet after all.

Maybe it would be cool if we could put Jabba in the meeting Obi-Wan is spying on. That meeting is filled with cartoonish characters anyway, and adding Jabba might make it a little more serious. We could even use Christopher Lee's dialogue from the Clone Wars movie to work the involvement of the Hutts into the dialogue.

SilverKey said:

nice mock-up, ben_danger!

I like the idea of having the Hutts being a part of the Separatists. It makes a lot of sense for the greedy Hutts to join the Separatists which consists of other greedy factions like the Trade Federation.

I'd keep Jabba in the background though, and keep Poggle making the announcement in the arena. Geonosis is his planet after all.

Maybe it would be cool if we could put Jabba in the meeting Obi-Wan is spying on. That meeting is filled with cartoonish characters anyway, and adding Jabba might make it a little more serious. We could even use Christopher Lee's dialogue from the Clone Wars movie to work the involvement of the Hutts into the dialogue

thats a great idea with the clone wars dialogue, i will definitely try it. ive been thinking of MAYBE merging geonosis and tatooine in some fashion, but it could make the 'unknown planet in the armpit of the universe' a bit too busy.

having jabba as a background character would work well. i think having him talking was a bit too much 'look, TPM footage works!', but i like the idea of jango working for him like boba does, and the seperatist gang being partially controlled by him.

does anyone here use final cut? i have been making simple cut and paste edits using it, but this was the first one using overlaying objects. is there a way i can make overlayered footage in alternative shapes? i got the square by cropping the left/right/top/bottom sides and resizing it.

the whole idea of this edit is to provide a stronger link in ROTJ for the JABBA opening, it will hopefully make it more of a culmination of six films as oppose to three, with JABBA being an old goon from the previous series.

jedimasterfisher mentioned on youtube that it doesnt work as well without music, i think i agree, but the music i always found conflicting with the 'impending death' emotions that the scene could be providing us with. does anyone have any ideas for an alternative 'anakin-padme' love theme that could be used? may try it with the 'luke-leia' theme.

ben_danger said:

SilverKey said:

nice mock-up, ben_danger!

I like the idea of having the Hutts being a part of the Separatists. It makes a lot of sense for the greedy Hutts to join the Separatists which consists of other greedy factions like the Trade Federation.

I'd keep Jabba in the background though, and keep Poggle making the announcement in the arena. Geonosis is his planet after all.

Maybe it would be cool if we could put Jabba in the meeting Obi-Wan is spying on. That meeting is filled with cartoonish characters anyway, and adding Jabba might make it a little more serious. We could even use Christopher Lee's dialogue from the Clone Wars movie to work the involvement of the Hutts into the dialogue

 

thats a great idea with the clone wars dialogue, i will definitely try it. ive been thinking of MAYBE merging geonosis and tatooine in some fashion, but it could make the 'unknown planet in the armpit of the universe' a bit too busy.

having jabba as a background character would work well. i think having him talking was a bit too much 'look, TPM footage works!', but i like the idea of jango working for him like boba does, and the seperatist gang being partially controlled by him.

does anyone here use final cut? i have been making simple cut and paste edits using it, but this was the first one using overlaying objects. is there a way i can make overlayered footage in alternative shapes? i got the square by cropping the left/right/top/bottom sides and resizing it.

the whole idea of this edit is to provide a stronger link in ROTJ for the JABBA opening, it will hopefully make it more of a culmination of six films as oppose to three, with JABBA being an old goon from the previous series.

jedimasterfisher mentioned on youtube that it doesnt work as well without music, i think i agree, but the music i always found conflicting with the 'impending death' emotions that the scene could be providing us with. does anyone have any ideas for an alternative 'anakin-padme' love theme that could be used? may try it with the 'luke-leia' theme.

I actually like that scene with no music. works well. To use a shape other than a square use the 8-point garbage matte tool in fcp. It wont be perfect but it will look better

Chris Lee provides the voice for Dooku in the Clone Wars?

shanerjedi said:

Chris Lee provides the voice for Dooku in the Clone Wars?

In the movie, yes. But not in the TV show.

yeah, samuel l jackson voices mace windu too. anthony daniels also voices c3po in the whole series too i think.

i've always wanted to do an AOTC edit, but dont really have the expertise to do so. i like the idea of the zulu references. if there was to do an edit, id want to hoard such references to create something along the lines of STAR WARS: THE PLANET OF DOOM, with a hard pulp feel to anakin and obi-wan.

thanks for the fcp pointer octorox. i just got hold of a copy of after effects, so had a go at masking a closer shape to jabba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwVB-zpcxjk&feature=channel_page . for some reason it wont upload to HQ so its looks terrible. there is full colour correction on this version, but some bits do seem too dark because of the upload. next question though for an after effects whizz, is there a way to make a mask, and then set it to change shape? eg make a square blob for the beginning of a 5 second shot, and have it slowly morph into a circle blob at the end? could make jabbas arm movements and him shuffling towards the camera work better.

this has been asked before, but i cant find the post.

is there any decent FREE software that i can use to convert a DVD to an editable file type, be it avi, mp4, quicktime etc?

does anyone find that when editing a downloaded avi on a mac that the sound doesnt work? both AE and FCP both seem to omit the music ive had to rely on youtube rips just to pull the mp3 of them.