Sevb32 said:Guess I'll become a Yes-man.
Sevb32 said:Sumatra said:I really don't like seeing the screen. The reason you see so many screens in the PT is because Lucas now thinks we're all so stupid that we have to be shown everything or we won't get it. He made the PT for 5 year olds.
We learn everything we need to from what Han tells Leia in that scene. There's no need to cut to something new when the scene is between the characters. Despite what Lucas think, CG is not a character.
Call me a frickin' 5 year old then.
well to be honest Sevb32, that's exactly the age you seem to be acting over this damn display issue. And saying that you should become a yes man because people have actually respected my decision not to do anything to that scene, yet you still have to constantly go on about it and throw your toys out of the pram, just portrays a childish behaviour even more. I don't want to surround myself with yes-men and if i didn't want to take suggestions and criticisms then i would never have started the revisited threads in the first place. my mind has been changed about ideas several times but at least the majority of the members have enough about them to respect me when i say that my decision i final whether they like it or not.
this kind of petty stuff just clogs up the thread and can cause me to miss some posts because i get fed up of hearing the same things over and over again. From now on dicks will be put on my ignore list so i can concentrate on the important discussions going on in here (which i would say 99% always is).
Just please have a bit of maturity and let it rest. anyone that goes on the ignore list also goes from the credits. But this won't happen for just any small thing so don't worry about that.
Sumatra was 100% correct when he described the PT having to show everything to explain what's going on and i have said this myself. The PT talked down to its audience, alienating most fans older than pre-teen, but this is a discussion for another thread in a few years. lol
Jeyl said:I'd be much happier living with the holo display than the redone Rebel Transport that escapes from Hoth. That has all sorts of 'focus distracting' elements thrown into it that I'm surprised we even saw the Ion bolts at all.
ok well i'm going to reply to this one.
lets break it down shall we between the two scenes....
Hoth escpae.
the rebel transport and two x-wings escape from the planet, head directly towards a stardestroyer that just sits there and practically waits to get blasted so the rebels can escape. Now , adding a few lasers coming from the stardestroyer and having one of the xwings destroyed makes perfect sense and boosts the peril that the rebels are in. it isn't "focus distracting" as you say because there was no single focus in that scene.
Millennium Falcon holo /cutaway display.
Han and Leia in the falcons cockpit figuring out what their next move is. they are viewing an out of shot display as han scans through navigation charts and picks out bespin. here all we need to know is in the conversation and the focus should be on the interaction between Han and Leia.
Adding a cut away shot of the display - this splits the scene up and does ruin its flow. Plus there is no shots of the display at high enough res for this to work for a 720p release
Adding a holo diplay in front of the characters - your focus is taken away from the two main characters interaction. Viewers will pay more attention to what is being displayed than what they should be focusing on. And the arguments that it doesn't distract just doesn't ring true. if it isn't distracting then you aren't looking at the display which means it proves it doesn't need to be there in the first place.
now i can't explain all that any more clearer than i have so can that be the end of it now please.
please keep the suggestions, photo and video mock-ups coming. i'm not stubborn headed and do listen and look at ever one. for instance just recently it was suggested that when Luke approaches Bespin that it should be later in the day because the sun is setting shortly after. Now i had spent 5 days working on the new moving matte shot of Luke's approach and had just finished it and i loved it until i saw this suggestion. i've now gone back and had to change most of the elements and start from scratch because i like this idea. luckily i could reuse all the tracking work i had originally done and have now completed it (minus the xwing which needs to have a new element added) but the finished shot is 1000% better than it originally was.