STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 345

Wow. Thanx to everyone for their comments (for, and against). This ivdeo has gotten more hits in 8 hours than any other video has gotten since I started posting videos!!!!!!!

:D

It was just for fun, but it did turn out a lot nicer than I thought it would (as many have commented about), and I am glad you all enjoyed it...or at least watched it. :)

Anyway, thanx again, and I hope videos I make in the future are just as popular...but I don't know how I'll top this one.

Here's the text I used in the displays...
(Although most is basically 'filler' ... and the numbers are just random)

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Main Left Panel::

mars
red planet
77.092
dirt is red

noad
system
1541369
class g

adywan
revisited
episode 4
watch it!

Bespin
lando sys
95841000.6
tibanna gas
refinery

Bespin
lando sys
95841000.6

planet
bespin

tibanna
gas mine

mining
colony

used to be
owemd
by disney

cloud city
come visit
darthvader
isn't here

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Smaller Right Panel::

win
98

Linux
x86

WiN
xp

OS
X

DOS
5.0

VISTA
SuX

I'll make a post in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist, and maybe some up-n-comer will use it in their edit.

PS: LadyFerry, thanx for subscribing to my channel. :) **big hug**

Yeah, on the cars, my S/O has a 2003 Chevy without power windows and locks, just regular locks and window cranks...

...and here I was thinking such cars no longer existed xD;

adywan said: Adding a display of any kind for this scene would be a case of "adding it just because you can".

you pretty much checkmate-ed me there man....ok, since the idea is precisely not fall into tweaks and changes just because you can then ok.....

And that is why the design in the OT is so much better than the PT. Things seem more functional in the OT and the design elements made it look like a different time. Now look at the Pt and everything is just so flashy yet a lot of it looks like elements from today's society. Just because the falcon design was around in the PT era doesn't mean that it should have all the fancy displays we see. Look at today's cars for instance. there are so many varying features you can  get with a car depending upon how much you are prepared to pay. The one thing i really want to do when i get to the PT is downgrade a lot of the technology and design. yeh, i can imagine that the queen of naboo would have a very expensive craft with the latest tech but other ships & environment do need the downgrade (which they actually did a bit for the jedi starfighter in ROTS)

Just as a side note just because something has buttons and switches doesn't mean it's more functional, but rather it's less sophisticated. A lot of it looks like elements from today's society? back in the seventies everything looked like the Falcon: switched and buttons, technology has advanced to the point you don't have to have a dashboard with fixed buttons, but rather it can reconfigure to the situation in a nice touchscreen. You put the example of the Jedi fighter and that ship still has a lot of screens.

Corellian77: your comment seems to forget that back in the day everytime you wanted to show sci-fi/futuristic stuff you strapped a jetpack into the hero and there you go, same with flying cars, and same with a lot of things, it's because those things speak to us of future, holograms are futuristic because they are not yet here, but buttons and switches? they are here since waaaay back, it actually makes things look old and dated and unrealistic now, and the key is "now". Back in 1977 star wars looked futuristic, now? the ships don't. I don't want to start the debate like Josh put it, but if we are not here to debate about certain things then what? if these days something speaks of future tech is touch screens since we all know that CRT screens are old and out. it's just the way it works, look at other sci-fi movies from the day, before star wars and you'll see old looking things.....with buttons and switches.

I think the motto: "don't change something just because you can" is a good one, but let's not stay away from screens "just because.."

I just want to jump in for a second, and say that I agree with Ady's reason's, and am not 'disappointed' that he won't be inserting this idea. I'm just glad to hear that he had fun watching it. Please don't get into a big debate about it.

Okay...so now that I've said my piece, let the big debate continue. ;)

Sevb32 said:

I know he probably won't but begging never hurts.

You'll see soon enough, I'm surprised you don't have scabby knees already :p

(I kid, I'd have directed that at anybody)

RoccondilRinon said:

Sevb32 said:

I know he probably won't but begging never hurts.

 

You'll see soon enough, I'm surprised you don't have scabby knees already :p

(I kid, I'd have directed that at anybody)

Why, sometimes it's true ;]

ChainsawAsh said:

Sure, the PT stuff looks kinda cool, but it doesn't feel like it "works" IMO.

I see your point ChainsawAsh, maybe it's because touchscreens are still so new to us and we are so used to touching buttons and feeling the spring down and the sound and everything, chalk it up to "experience" as you say.....but touchscreens are here, are new, and definitely are they way of the future, because they free you up: "you don't want the fuel gauge on the left? easy, touch it, drag-and-drop-it on the right, there you go" it's true they almost seem magical, but so did lightsabers back in 77 (and still do now, and yet we almost *feel* them work). If this is not the best place to add the holoscreen, fine as the Ad-man said it, not change it just because you can, but as I said, let's not stay away from touchscreens out of whim, sometimes they help and look cool, reminding us precisely that this is in another time where HOLO-screens are common place.....

Consistency is great, have the ships in the OT equipped with the touchscreens whenever is right would be wonderfull, that way they look like advanced spacecraft from another time and not like a Boeing 737

Jedi Dark Knight said:

adywan said: Adding a display of any kind for this scene would be a case of "adding it just because you can".

you pretty much checkmate-ed me there man....ok, since the idea is precisely not fall into tweaks and changes just because you can then ok.....

And that is why the design in the OT is so much better than the PT. Things seem more functional in the OT and the design elements made it look like a different time. Now look at the Pt and everything is just so flashy yet a lot of it looks like elements from today's society. Just because the falcon design was around in the PT era doesn't mean that it should have all the fancy displays we see. Look at today's cars for instance. there are so many varying features you can  get with a car depending upon how much you are prepared to pay. The one thing i really want to do when i get to the PT is downgrade a lot of the technology and design. yeh, i can imagine that the queen of naboo would have a very expensive craft with the latest tech but other ships & environment do need the downgrade (which they actually did a bit for the jedi starfighter in ROTS)

Just as a side note just because something has buttons and switches doesn't mean it's more functional, but rather it's less sophisticated. A lot of it looks like elements from today's society? back in the seventies everything looked like the Falcon: switched and buttons, technology has advanced to the point you don't have to have a dashboard with fixed buttons, but rather it can reconfigure to the situation in a nice touchscreen. You put the example of the Jedi fighter and that ship still has a lot of screens.

Corellian77: your comment seems to forget that back in the day everytime you wanted to show sci-fi/futuristic stuff you strapped a jetpack into the hero and there you go, same with flying cars, and same with a lot of things, it's because those things speak to us of future, holograms are futuristic because they are not yet here, but buttons and switches? they are here since waaaay back, it actually makes things look old and dated and unrealistic now, and the key is "now". Back in 1977 star wars looked futuristic, now? the ships don't. I don't want to start the debate like Josh put it, but if we are not here to debate about certain things then what? if these days something speaks of future tech is touch screens since we all know that CRT screens are old and out. it's just the way it works, look at other sci-fi movies from the day, before star wars and you'll see old looking things.....with buttons and switches.

 

I think the motto: "don't change something just because you can" is a good one, but let's not stay away from screens "just because.."

 

The thing i was trying to get across is that in the Ot the designers and set builders did a great job making things look like they didn't come from our time and universe even with the limitations of what stuff could be used, whereas the PT many things look like we actually could have these things on your desktop PC or car etc. I don't think that any of the sets in the OT look dated at all. from a design point of view they work perfectly. you have to remember a few words that start the movie...."a long time ago......" . everything in the OT universe had that lived in look which went against the grain of usual sci-fi. The PT could have been any old or modern day sci-fi using character names from Star Wars. The PT will date a lot worse than the OT ever will.  All the buttons and switches gave the sets character which most of the PT sets sorely lacked.

I remember when i was a kid and i always wanted to redecorate the rooms in my house into sets from the movies. i actually still would love to do something like that now. But there isn't a single set piece in the whole PT (accept fro reused sets from the OT like the stardestroyer bridge or the Tantive IV etc) that i would even want to recreate. i found that kinda sad. The whole design element in the PT is very forgettable

Octorox said:

As someone who uses my ipod touch everyday, I think the PT starfighters seem a lot easier to use. I wouldn't know where to start with the Falcon, the PT ships probably have a step by step set-up wizard and nifty one-touch autopilot. :)

and there is the problem. wasn't Anakin supposed to be a great pilot but if everything is so easy to pilot then that means anyone could pilot a starship. the OT ships all looked like you would have to actually learn how to fly them and not rely on a computer and idiot proof interface to do all the work for you.

Jedi Dark Knight said:

Consistency is great, have the ships in the OT equipped with the touchscreens whenever is right would be wonderfull, that way they look like advanced spacecraft from another time and not like a Boeing 737

no ships will have touch screens in the Revisited OT. From a design point of view the PT should be changed to fit in with the OT and not the other way around.

Deathcrow said:

ChainsawAsh said:

My point is consistency.  Go one way or the other - touch-screens and holograms are fine as long as you don't go from that to a Boeing 737 cockpit in the same series.  It just doesn't make sense.  We need consistency between the two, and I think most people here prefer the look of the OT controls to the PT.  To paraphrase Ady himself, "The PT should be changed to match the OT, not the other way around."

 

Are we still arguing about the addition of holograms? If i remember correctly Adywan added some Holograms in ANH:R too, right? And of course it had nothing to do with 'making the OT more like the PT'. They were just appropriate in the scene. So guys, please drop the PT arguments in this case.

The consistency argument is a good one btw. Because we never see something like this (besides the holo chess) in the Falcon before. So yeah.  This is propably the only issue I can see.

But the point still remains: Holo tech is quite common place, and they propably wouldn't show it off "because its cool". They would only use it when they need it.

I'm not all against holograms, myself. But the Death Star plans were shown on a screen in ANH and ANH:R alike (although updated), so the way I see it, is that the OT has both holograms and displays, while leaning more toward displays, while the PT has both (as seen in TPM mostly) while leaning more toward holograms.

With that logic, I suppose it could go either way if someone decided to insert this idea into the Falcon GPS scene. I just prefer the idea of a display since the OT leans towards displays more, whether or not it feels outdated or not. And I still stand by my belief that a 2-3 second cutaway is less distracting than a hologram being shown throughout the entire scene.

And besides, the monitor screen is seen in every shot of the dashboard throughout the OT (though turned off). So it has to serve a purpose right? Having a hologram kinda makes that monitor seem like its there for nothing.

adywan said:

The whole design element in the PT is very forgettable

Quite. I do really like some of the ships (those Jedi Starfighters are neat-o!) and a few of the character designs, but on a whole, it's a bit over the top. :p

Good point about having to learn how to fly the ships, too. Reminds me of how guys like Jeremy Clarkson don't like some of the over-electronified cars nowadays because they do so much of the work for you.

Ok, although I like screens and holos I must say there's some true in what you say....as always: Adywan has spoken...