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THE OT SOUNDTRACKS SALVAGE - SWESBROTJ -"remastered"(so far)+ LP's (Released) — Page 2

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Just thought I'd share my thoughts on the sets...

ANH sounded a lot... softer. The trumpets for instance were a lot less harsh than on all the official soundtracks. Somehow it seemed you managed to dial down the harshness of the brass whilst upping the strings and other sections, don't know how you managed it but it's brilliant!

As for ESB, I personally thought that there wasn't much wrong with the Anthology or even the Sony releases and as it's my favourite score I'm pretty happy about that! I mean, there's not that much channel flipping, the background noise isn't that bad at all, and the instrument sections all seem nice and equal. Even so, your remastered version did seem to bring it that little bit more to life so I thank you dearly for that!

And ROTJ had the most noticeable change, you could just hear the music so much clearer! The field of music is so narrow on all the official soundtracks but on these remastered scores it's much much wider, great stuff!

Honestly, download these, there worth it! :D

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Haaa !!! Beatho, you just made my day !... :)

I was still wondering if I reached the goal I intented - and pretended to - with these remasters. Indeed  you're the very first one to let me know about ANH and ESB ! :)

Not that I wasn' t confident in my work, but perception can be very different from a person to another. Anyway you just confirmed you get my way to deal with these scores and that is the essential to me ! ;)

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Thanks to Beatho and Ripplin who recalled this topic to the head of the forum these days five new people asked the links today after two weeks of silence.

Hehe... That's why it is worth to give an interesting feedback - and not just "oh it's great !". Indeed  it is not to inflate my ego saying "hey my scores are the best ones !", but just I feel this topic will soon be forgotten in the dephts of the Forum and before it happens, I want everyone to be able to catch the thread and to enjoy this set.

Why this topic will be forgotten ? Let me tell you: because there's no future project to be done or updated: it's here, right now, and there's nothing more to be discussed.

... So please everyone, don' t be selfish, let people know: give feedback ! :)

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Well I was just putting down my thoughts.

Yea feedback is very good, I personally will be much more inclined to download something that's had some sort of feedback than none at all. And being a distributor of my own work myself I know that it's always nice to know that your work is appreciated

And if it helps spread the sets, it's worth it! =)

 

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By any chance is 7FN going to do a vinyl transfer of return of the jedi?

I am still totally dissapointed to this day that no double LP with a nice booklet was ever produced for Jedi.  Empire Strikes Back is awsome in that regard.

Jedi always seems to get the shaft, No CAV laserdisc release, no double LP and so on.

Also the quality of the recordings made available to the consumers and general public for Jedi's soundtrack sound muffled and low quality.  Why can't Lucas have those original masters transfered as audiophile quality CD.

I guess they don't care because nobody cares about quality anymore.  We have traded quality for convenience of mp3 ipod and itunes.  Nobody can tell that something sounds like shit on a tiny portable device with crappy headphones and massive compression. Nobody can tell the clipping done on the remastered CD in 1997 once compressed down to crap mp3 can they?

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The parade of ewoks from the anthology box set. I just liked it alot so I had to add it to your set. I still love the set a whole lot great sound I can hear things better and the brass section actually sounds like brass and not some muted horns like the anthology. You did a good job with the trilogy.

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After I started using flac files I can tell a big difference. Mp3s have a wavering muzzeled sound on certain frequencies. That is why I still use a cd player. I am an audiophile so I look for those sounds.  I cant stand when I buy a cd (metallicas new album) and it sounds distorted. Louder is not better. I love vinyl for the shear fact that you can tweak the sound right on the turntable. I mean you have the full equalizer depending on what you got.  Cd players and Ipods are basically Bass on Bass off Volume that is it. I always look for a stereo that has an equalizer. Thank god i still have my sharp from 92 that has its own turntable.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Ok I promise to make a Feedback here. I didnt have the chance before.

I dont have to mention the quality of the sound... ;)

I really impressed by ROTJ which as others described is/was the most problematic. Th sound now is crystal and i heard tones and sounds that before were hidden.

In Some places the trumpets were a bit crisp. I re calibated my speakers and they sounded Ace!

A big surprise was teh radio drama music which was unknown (thank you for that)

I liked the new spaces/pauses between the tracks.

I d like though each file has the proper naming and not only the track number instead.

Nothing to add/remember for now.

 

A big thanks that gave us this superb version!


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ABC i have to say excellent work. YES I MEAN YOU.

A New Hope sounded more like it did on the movie 5/5

Empire was amazing my favorite songs were given justice Carbon Freeze to Departure of Boba Fett now we can hear the cellos THANKS 5/5 just for that

ROTJ I hated every release of it but man You made it fit in with the rest of the trilogy 7/5

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EyeShotFirst said:

I cant stand when I buy a cd (metallicas new album) and it sounds distorted. Louder is not better.

I haven't really heard that album yet, but just about every review I ever hear about complains about the sound quality, which is a shame. Maybe some talented editor will take a stab at it. ;) Think it could be done, based on what you hear? (if it's simply too loud and gets distorted/farty, maybe nothing can be done about it) I wouldn't be surprised if they release a remastered/fixed version someday.

 

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Ripplin said:
EyeShotFirst said:

I cant stand when I buy a cd (metallicas new album) and it sounds distorted. Louder is not better.

I haven't really heard that album yet, but just about every review I ever hear about complains about the sound quality, which is a shame. Maybe some talented editor will take a stab at it. ;) Think it could be done, based on what you hear? (if it's simply too loud and gets distorted/farty, maybe nothing can be done about it) I wouldn't be surprised if they release a remastered/fixed version someday.

 

 

not to get too off topic here, but that Metallica album had a different (read: much better) mastering for the video game "Guitar Hero" (I think it was that game).  Anyway, there were fan-rips of this floating around.  And Metallica (read: Lars) claimed that it was bullshit, and they wouldn't release another version of the album

To veer back on topic... I am really looking forward to listening to this set.  Sounds amazing.

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Ripplin said:
EyeShotFirst said:

I cant stand when I buy a cd (metallicas new album) and it sounds distorted. Louder is not better.

I haven't really heard that album yet, but just about every review I ever hear about complains about the sound quality, which is a shame. Maybe some talented editor will take a stab at it. ;) Think it could be done, based on what you hear? (if it's simply too loud and gets distorted/farty, maybe nothing can be done about it) I wouldn't be surprised if they release a remastered/fixed version someday.

not to get too off topic here, but that Metallica album had a different (read: much better) mastering for the video game "Guitar Hero" (I think it was that game).  Anyway, there were fan-rips of this floating around.  And Metallica (read: Lars) claimed that it was bullshit, and they wouldn't release another version of the album

To veer back on topic... I am really looking forward to listening to this set.  Sounds amazing.

Here's the comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRyIACDCc1I

It's sad really, what has happened to music...

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Last off-topic:

I have only one wish for Metallica: that they Rust in Peace !... Viva Dave ! :P

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skyjedi2005 said:

By any chance is 7FN going to do a vinyl transfer of return of the jedi?

Nope. Someone else could but we agreed this 40 min score didn't worth the effort. I wish you would satisfied with the remaster, mostly if you think that it wasn' t - as all the remastered set - meant to be shared at the origin. I shared them because one generous guy named 7FN shared the RSO with me that I was seeking for a remastering work. THAT was what I meant to share at the origin. As his work was finally very fine in that shape, I choosed to share my remastered set with them. ... You still want more ? 

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A big surprise was teh radio drama music which was unknown (thank you for that)

I liked the new spaces/pauses between the tracks.

I d like though each file has the proper naming and not only the track number instead.

Thanks to GoodMusician for the extra tracks not foundable on the SE's and Anthology !

For the spaces between the tracks it is indeed of great interest to me too, and much more digestible ;)

... And sorry ! My Hi-Fi doesn't display track titles, so I don' t need them ... I don' t know what's an Ipod btw and don' t want to. :) Some say that computers can read a CD ?

Lol !

@ Eyeshotfirst: Thanks for this enthusiastic notation. What you said about ANH is really good to know and to hear from a fan. I won' t say enough I'm not a scholar about SW scores and I was just guided by what sounded essential in these recordings to be improved. :)

And thank you all for making this topic living for a while: it's raining requests these times. I mean thanks for them !

 

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I finally finished listening to all of these.  What I have to say, cannot be said any other way, so I want to take a moment to apologize in advance for the level of profanity.  But it needs to be said.

 

 

 

.... HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! That was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!  I've NEVER heard ROTJ sound like that, and for the first time ever IT FUCKING ROCKS!!!  SW sounded perfect, ESB sounded perfect, ROTJ sounded perfect ... IT'S ALL FUCKING PERFECT!!!

 

I don't know how you did it with what you had to work with, but my God man, I'm in awe.

And thank you for not including Jedi Rocks, but I kinda wish you would have put the SE ending song as a bonus track (but I'm SO glad you left "Yub Nub" in the album proper!!!) - but since I like to pretend the SEs never happened, I guess there's nothing wrong with that.

Thank you for these fantastic releases - they are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, THE definitive "Star Wars" soundtracks.  Period.  No matter what.

Thank you!

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... You forgot to tell about the fucking covers! :p lol!!! Your post really made me laugh! Thank you!

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Haha yeah, the covers were pretty sweet as well.  I like how you used a standard and an alternative poster for different variations on the front - that was a really good idea.  And I really like the way you extended the ESB logo to fit on the spine.  I'd tried that for a cover once and it never turned out quite right, but yours looks ... well ... like it should :-P

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Yep. To notice there was a lot of colour corrections done on the ESB and RotJ posters, and a little on ANH. 'Hope you like the idea of each planet on the CD's :)  And I hope it's easy to make them match on everybody's softwares... I' m not an expert about these.

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I've listened through most of RotJ on my PC with JBL Control Studio fronts and Asus Xonar DX audio card (sorry, but I just don't have my home stereo system available at the moment, and I was forced to use the PC). I use Foobar2000 player (usually with DynamicRange compression mod, although I also heard the remastering without it, just to avaoid any sound disturbance). I make it all clear just to note that I haven't used a proper audio system, still a decent one.

 

Let me begin with the (small) critisism - there was some background noise on a few tracks. Not very much, but I could hear it in the quieter sections, interrupted by the heavy brass(?) instruments or by violin(?) solos. Another issue is that the player I'm using shows all tracks as "unknown". Once I have home audio I'll test it again, but can anyone please check if there's problems with PC's reading the audio file desriptions (author, track title/number and so on).

This is definately a (very) small issue, though.

 

Now, to the point. Overall, this was excellent... no, amazing even! The clarity of the instruments was astounding. The Anthology set I have sounded kind of muffled, yet now I can hear everything, even quieter sections that I couldn't in the original releases. I love the trumpets, man... they were my favourite parts from the RotJ OST and the Anthology ones sounded somewhat distorted, and overly sharp. Now they are excellent! Towards the end of Track 6 ("Into the Trap" on the CD cover) there's a "clicking" instruments, reminiscent of the Empire musical cue in the Battle of Hoth, it's just amazingly clear now. Seriously, I'm listening to the Sail Barge Assault and Into the Trap/Main Reactor titles for the dozenth time now, and I can't get enough.  It's very hard for to give a detailed review, because I'm an experienced listener, yet I'm not an expert on music, and I'm not sure of the English names of many musical instruments.

All I can say is that never since watching RotJ in the 1990s in cinema for the first time have I heard the soundtrack again, with such power, beauty and complexity.  Until now.

 

Thanks for this remaster, and thanks to those who bumped the thread!

 

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the player I'm using shows all tracks as "unknown". Once I have home audio I'll test it again, but can anyone please check if there's problems with PC's reading the audio file desriptions (author, track title/number and so on).

That's because they're not tagged, you'll have to do that yourself :-)

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Yep. To notice there was a lot of colour corrections done on the ESB and RotJ posters, and a little on ANH.

About that, is it possible you somehow forgot to select the entire ANH poster during colourcorrecting? The bottom part of the left poster in "ANHcovers 2cd.jpg" looks a lot more saturated than the rest :-)

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Burdokva said:

 

Let me begin with the (small) critisism - there was some background noise on a few tracks. Not very much, but I could hear it in the quieter sections, interrupted by the heavy brass(?) instruments or by violin(?) solos. Another issue is that the player I'm using shows all tracks as "unknown". Once I have home audio I'll test it again, but can anyone please check if there's problems with PC's reading the audio file desriptions (author, track title/number and so on).

This is definately a (very) small issue, though.

... This was stated (in a way) in the very first post of this thread that you may have checked. Anyway I'm glad most people enjoy it as it is. I like to think nothing is impossible to do but... I've done what I could. :)

DarthBo said:

About that, is it possible you somehow forgot to select the entire ANH poster during colourcorrecting? The bottom part of the left poster in "ANHcovers 2cd.jpg" looks a lot more saturated than the rest :-)

The blues are quite difficult to deal with sometimes. Indeed the dark blues may have a bit more saturation. It 's not a matter of selected parts btw: I choosed to desaturate or change the most the hot colours. Note that I didn' t try to recover the original colours... How could I ? I don't have an old pristine print has a guide.

... So, what about your thoughts on the scores ? You' re so silent about it my dear DarthBo! :)

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ABC said:DarthBo said:

About that, is it possible you somehow forgot to select the entire ANH poster during colourcorrecting? The bottom part of the left poster in "ANHcovers 2cd.jpg" looks a lot more saturated than the rest :-)

The blues are quite difficult to deal with sometimes. Indeed the dark blues may have a bit more saturation. It 's not a matter of selected parts btw: I choosed to desaturate or change the most the hot colours. Note that I didn' t try to recover the original colours... How could I ? I don't have an old pristine print has a guide.

No no, I mean there's actually a ~200px high bar at the bottom that has completely different colour:

... So, what about your thoughts on the scores ? You' re so silent about it my dear DarthBo! :)

Haha, well I haven't really had the time to download them all! You know I loved your ROTJ set (has it changed since the APE links you gave me btw?) I only just downloaded your ANH set and hope to listen to it soon :-)