Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 64

Those mockups you did are great. And you even have him speeding away from Hutt's palace. That was the night shot I was referring too. Darken the sky so it's at night and add twinkling lights in the upper portion.

adywan reused shots at times in SWR. If done right, they can ellicit entirely new emotions from people than the original.

It's also a great basis to start a new shot using an original SW element.

Davnes007, don't worry about perfection when it comes to storyboards. What matters with them is the sense of story and overall pacing.

Great job.

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I know imperial paintjobs have been discussed before, but what about giving Palp's shuttle a dark maroon color?

And I've always wondered why the heroes dont fly a parts shuttle instead of the same old type we always see. Would be better if it was distinct some way.

It would be nice to do a new matte based on the old one but totally fresh.

George may have thrown flipshots and the like at us but in a redux it would be better it as new as possible.

There are plenty of people who do the convention circuit in Boba Fett outfits and the like who could actually film new Fett scenes, even set builders :http://imageevent.com/publicgallery/events/inbox000?p=13&w=4&n=1&c=3&m=48&s=0&y=0&z=9&l=0

These mockups and video snips are place holders for hopefully full on sequences which look and feel as if they belong in a Star Wars film.

We should only re-use as a matter of last resort, it would be impossible to film Kenneth Colley when he was that young again (not unless someone has a working Tardis out there) but it might be possible to add more to his vocal performance.

The Ewoks films were rubbish so I have no problem with pulling them to pieces for parts but I think people would notice if we just used the same shots over and over again (like classic Galactica).

shanerjedi said:

Davnes007, don't worry about perfection when it comes to storyboards. What matters with them is the sense of story and overall pacing.

Great job.

 

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I know imperial paintjobs have been discussed before, but what about giving Palp's shuttle a dark maroon color?

And I've always wondered why the heroes dont fly a parts shuttle instead of the same old type we always see. Would be better if it was distinct some way.

If you track back a bit there have been some mock ups of variations of both of those ideas.

If you have photoshop or something similar have a go yourself.

The more the merrier.

Yes I did see the red shuttle. I like the idea of something distinct for Palps.

I'll give it a go tomorrow.

Angel replaced Tydirium with a PT era shuttle and I replaced it with an Imperial Transport (I could never get the wings right in that mockup).

I also did the Emperor's shuttle with a red flag stripe (like the blue stripe it originally was meant to have).

Davnes007 said:

Okay, this has nothing to do with Ewoks...

Put together a short bunch of segments of the Boba Fett subplot that Bingowings mentioned HERE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8aOUYhUTUY

 hey davnes, did u look on my posts about the comaprisons between ROTS ROTJ space battles? i'd like to see u make something out of it.

Davnes007 said:

rcb said:

rcb said:

[I] think it would be cool to do something like when [in ROTS] the republic cruiser comes [alongside] of grevious' ship, they start firing...and shoot the crap out of each other.
[In] the novel, it talks about blockade runners, [when] after [their] engines are gone, making suicide runs into the stardestroyers!

hey davnes, did u look on my posts about the comaprisons between ROTS ROTJ space battles? i'd like to see u make something out of it.

Yes, I did, but I'm not sure my current skills are quite up to the task. Besides stealing some footage from ROTS, I'm not sure what I could do, really. However, any thoughts you have about that, or any other footage that I could use would be gladly accepted. :)

 

with the blockade runner deal, there is the scene where the tie fighter crashes into the bridge, maybe u can substitute the tie for the blockade runner. the bridge would need to fall off or something. i can't find the clip on youtube, but in the movie star shiptroopers, there is a scene where and asteroid is coming at a cruiser, it knocks the bridge off. that's wat i picture. if u can find the clip and look at it maybe that'll give u something to work with.

on boba, in the novel, it says he used his flamethrower to get himself out sense his jetpack was damaged. only scene i can think of him using a flamethrower is jango in AOTC. Then u could just take lines out of jangos/boba's scenes. "Solo! your dead" (boba lines ESB) lands on sand "Arrgh" (jango line AOTC).

i'd do it all myself, unfortunatly one of my computers won't run it and the one i'm on now says my system's too fast for the software. heck if i know what that means.

EyeShotFirst I use VLC for my screen grabs, it's a great little player generally (It even plays most incomplete files, it's only come a cropper on really damaged ones) but the snapshot feature is really handy, just stick the DVD in your computer, pause it and say cheese.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

rcb said:

Davnes007 said:

rcb said:

rcb said:

[I] think it would be cool to do something like when [in ROTS] the republic cruiser comes [alongside] of grevious' ship, they start firing...and shoot the crap out of each other.
[In] the novel, it talks about blockade runners, [when] after [their] engines are gone, making suicide runs into the stardestroyers!

hey davnes, did u look on my posts about the comaprisons between ROTS ROTJ space battles? i'd like to see u make something out of it.

Yes, I did, but I'm not sure my current skills are quite up to the task. Besides stealing some footage from ROTS, I'm not sure what I could do, really. However, any thoughts you have about that, or any other footage that I could use would be gladly accepted. :)

 

with the blockade runner deal, there is the scene where the tie fighter crashes into the bridge, maybe u can substitute the tie for the blockade runner. the bridge would need to fall off or something. i can't find the clip on youtube, but in the movie star shiptroopers, there is a scene where and asteroid is coming at a cruiser, it knocks the bridge off. that's wat i picture. if u can find the clip and look at it maybe that'll give u something to work with.

on boba, in the novel, it says he used his flamethrower to get himself out sense his jetpack was damaged. only scene i can think of him using a flamethrower is jango in AOTC. Then u could just take lines out of jangos/boba's scenes. "Solo! your dead" (boba lines ESB) lands on sand "Arrgh" (jango line AOTC).

i'd do it all myself, unfortunatly one of my computers won't run it and the one i'm on now says my system's too fast for the software. heck if i know what that means.

 

Here's a stab at the attack of Corvette Squadron:

doubleofive said:

Great job, Davnes on the Boba Fett plot.  I think it might actually work.  We could find people to do impressions of Vader, Ackbar, and Fett, I'm sure someone could use it!

This is one instance where recycling may be essential, even welcome.

Boba Fett is a man of few words as is Vader (usually).

Take this dialogue sketch for example :

Vader : "Deliver the location tapes to the Alliance, Bounty Hunter"

Fett : "As you wish"

Every piece of that simple exchange can be sampled from previous utterances by the characters, it's short enough to be mysterious but says enough to set up the complexity of what is going on here.

Vader is hiring Fett to give the location to the Rebels and the Rebels are paying Fett for what Vader has supplied him.

Fett now serves a plot purpose and stays true to character.

I wish there was a way of taking Han's line "I expect to be well paid" and make him sound like the original Fett voice because it would outline how the two (at least back in ANH) are almost the same and how at the end of the story Han has moved away from the way he was.

doubleofive said:

Great job, Davnes on the Boba Fett plot.  I think it might actually work.  We could find people to do impressions of Vader, Ackbar, and Fett, I'm sure someone could use it!

The hard part would be making Ackbar... Maybe using morphing transitions between existing shots could works to get a good lips synch. But I fear that it would end looking like those youtube fake talking cats videos...

Not to mention that all the shots used on this new scenes should be deleted from the rest of the movie, otherwise it would look odd. Like those cheap B movies using several times the same footage.

TMBTM said:

doubleofive said:

Great job, Davnes on the Boba Fett plot.  I think it might actually work.  We could find people to do impressions of Vader, Ackbar, and Fett, I'm sure someone could use it!

The hard part would be making Ackbar... Maybe using morphing transitions between existing shots could works to get a good lips synch. But I fear that it would end looking like those youtube fake talking cats videos...

Not to mention that all the shots used on this new scenes should be deleted from the rest of the movie, otherwise it would look odd. Like those cheap B movies using several times the same footage.

If you gave Ackbar's current face to a lip reader it would make no sense at all, so lip synch isn't too much of a problem and Ady has proved that a lot can be done there.

But if it is too difficult, Fett could give the plans to a human Rebel general who could be dropped into the briefing scene.

Then all we would need would an actor in a Fett suit, an actor in a Rebel general suit and a section of corridor.

Not an effortless undertaking but well within the realms of the possible.

Bingowings said:

TMBTM said:

doubleofive said:

Great job, Davnes on the Boba Fett plot.  I think it might actually work.  We could find people to do impressions of Vader, Ackbar, and Fett, I'm sure someone could use it!

The hard part would be making Ackbar... Maybe using morphing transitions between existing shots could works to get a good lips synch. But I fear that it would end looking like those youtube fake talking cats videos...

Not to mention that all the shots used on this new scenes should be deleted from the rest of the movie, otherwise it would look odd. Like those cheap B movies using several times the same footage.

If you gave Ackbar's current face to a lip reader it would make no sense at all, so lip synch isn't too much of a problem and Ady has proved that a lot can be done there.

But if it is too difficult, Fett could give the plans to a human Rebel general who could be dropped into the briefing scene.

Then all we would need would an actor in a Fett suit, an actor in a Rebel general suit and a section of corridor.

Not an effortless undertaking but well within the realms of the possible.

 

I know Ackbar's "lips" are not really matching every words correctely. But I still think it would be quite difficult to just making it looks good enough. In fact that makes me want to give it a try and to "play my little Adyman" on this! Should be a good exercise for after effect!

"You'll have your reward, Fett", should be enough line for Ackbar. It only makes him open his mouth 6 times. 

Fett simply giving the plan to another rebel could be another easy option indeed!

I feel more and more that this sub plot will be in the final cut! (hope so).

i was thinking last night, about the ideas for the fett scenes. would it work better if,

• fett jumps out of hyperspace, meeting a gathering febel fleet (maybe a HUGE fleet seen orbiting a planet like some form of ring, more and more ships jumping out of hyperspace and joining the loop)
• he flies towards a main ship, or station
• delivering the plans to someone, maybe a general, or maybe just an underling
• departing fett flies off, and then he gets a transmission from a cloaked figure (vader, or perhaps a cowled sidious) so the treachery is revealed afterwards

the question would be who is betraying who, is vader betraying the empire? is fett betraying the rebels, or mabe the cowled emperor is working both sides again like in the PT, fett would have no idea that the cowled sidious is the emperor, but we may remember him from TPM.

I'd rather have the boba/plans plot remain anominous so the audience caould figure it out for themselves rather than sponfed like lucas's prequels.  that's why my idea of showing boba leaving jabba's palace and later his ship is seen leaving one of the rebel ships would work better.