Vaderisnothayden said: You are not going to be convinced as long as you refuse to accept ROTJ as what it was and refuse to accept that it works by other rules than the logic you try to force it to fit to. And I'm not even trying to convince you. I'm merely explaining my view. Have whatever view you like. I am just expressing and defend my view.
I am through with this discussion. Reading some of your hair brained bullcrap is really beginning to insult my intelligence, and I really don't care that much about the subject at hand to go around in circles about it anyway.
I see nothing at the end of the film to indicate a definite end. Absolutely nothing. You've failed to show me anything. You have yet to offer anything other than odd reasoning to defend your side. The fact is, at the end of the film there is still a big fleet out there. I am not trying to force the movie to follow my adult form of logic that it doesn't follow. I am not trying to force it to be an adult movie and not a kids movie all the while suffering from denial as you have decided I have. Just because it is a kids movie doesn't mean it has to toss out every inch of reason. That is great that you think it does. Bravo. You seem to be a very well grounded individual.
Anyway, time to end this pointlessness now. Anything else you say on this subject will not be getting a response from me. Why? Because you are saying the same damn thing over and over again, only in longer and longer posts. Having to read longer posts of the same thing, then having you add in about my denial issues isn't going to change my mind about this, it is just going to try my patience.
Also, you totally missed my whole thing with The Hobbit too, I was comparing Smug to the Death Star and Vader and Palps, the immediate threats. And the orc army to the Imperials. At the end of the book the orcs are still out there, a threat to peace and freedom on the people of Middle-Earth, but not an immediate threat. That is the same way I feel about ROTJ. The Imperials are still out there, still a threat to peace and freedom in the galaxy, but not an immediate threat. Which is why to me, being someone going down the path of nuttiness and denial that I am (according to you anyway), both the The Hobbit and ROTJ can end on a happy note without lying to kids and trying to convince them the world is now perfect just because there are happy moments.
Anyway, none of this really matters.