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Sevb32 said:

Show me a shot in ANH:R that had the two of the same star patterns in the same frame. In the same frame is the problem.

There is no problem, really this is taking it a tad far no? lol

 

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sketchrob said:
Sevb32 said:

Show me a shot in ANH:R that had the two of the same star patterns in the same frame. In the same frame is the problem.

There is no problem, really this is taking it a tad far no? lol

 

 

I don't think I am taking it any further than any of the other small goof and errors that were corrected for the other film. Not all of them HAD to be done either as most laypeople wouldn't notice many of them. (I am glad they were done!) I am simply saying please don't repeat star patterns in the same shot/frame. Pretty please with your favorite food on top. :)

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Yeah I agree, only Ady already replied  saying he wasnt going to do anything about it, being that its almost impossible to even notice it during the movie. Personally I rarely comment on this stuff, but even I have to admit that checking every scene for repeating stars HAS to be a bit much lol Eitherway its moot to me, lookin forward to Thursdays Ady select image ;)

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If you look that much into starfields, well I just don't know what to say. lol. I would have never caught that because starfields are in the background and I am looking at the action. Whatever Ady decides to do in keeping it or redoing it is fine with me. Thats just going too far in my opinion.

Also looking forward to Thursdays Ady select image. If you think about it, 5 more images and then the trailer. Happyness!!

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Ady has been know to change his mind....from time to time. God Bless him for it too. Most people wouldn't notice a lot of subtle things that were corrected in ANH:R either. Not that I am diminishing it, I am just stating subtle things could have stayed the same and most would not care or notice.

 

 

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I totally understand where Sevb32 is coming from. He's not saying every shot needs unique stars, but just that a single shot with repeated groupings is hard to "unnotice" once you notice it. It looks unnatural to see the same star cluster on the left and right of the screen, and it would be especially apparent blown up on a 60" TV. I agree that it's not the most important fix on ady's list, but if he has the time, blacking out a few of the stars on the right to break up the repeated pattern would do the trick. That's all.

 

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Is there any way to make the AT-STs (if they're included) cockpit windows look like the AT-ATs, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaAju7mO6rI

I always thought that the way they were designed in JEDI made them look like they had droopy eyes (and not threatening).  Even if you had a reflective/black window as opposed to the glowing red/blue ones would still look better.

You know Ady, maybe that is something you could do with the AT-ATs on Hoth.  I know you took out the red windows, but what about reflective windows, like how some windows are on more modern buildings?  They wouldn't have to be mirrored, but more like how tinted windows look when sunlight reflects on them.

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That video was pretty cool. hehe. Kinda like the chicken walker thing, I always wondered y it had those dumb flaps for eyes in ROTJ, I just wish there could be more of em in ESB in the background besides like 2 of em.

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@ Adywan,

 

Instead of smashing the sets once you are done creating them...why don't you auction them off to your fans here??

I am sure that some of us would be more than happy to 'own' a piece of history in the Star Wars Revisited Timeline!!

 

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JediBorota said:

@ Adywan,

 

Instead of smashing the sets once you are done creating them...why don't you auction them off to your fans here??

I am sure that some of us would be more than happy to 'own' a piece of history in the Star Wars Revisited Timeline!!

 

Is that legal?

 

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Jeyl said:
JediBorota said:

@ Adywan,

 

Instead of smashing the sets once you are done creating them...why don't you auction them off to your fans here??

I am sure that some of us would be more than happy to 'own' a piece of history in the Star Wars Revisited Timeline!!

 

Is that legal?

 

We will make it legal!

 

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Davnes007 said:
Jeyl said:
JediBorota said:

@ Adywan,

 

Instead of smashing the sets once you are done creating them...why don't you auction them off to your fans here??

I am sure that some of us would be more than happy to 'own' a piece of history in the Star Wars Revisited Timeline!!

 

Is that legal?

 

We will make it legal!

 

 

I was just thinking that! Made me laugh. : )

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Why isnt legal? The edit is not profit. Like a fanfilm called Star wars: Dark resurrection, which is also non profit, the director sold some of the costumes via ebay.

 

So go for it ;)


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Tobar said:
adywan said:
Tobar said:Hey Ady, I was just glancing at the excellent comparisons you have in the first post when I noticed something:

Were these just temporary starfields?

starfields is one thing that has never bothered me. the last thing you should be looking at in a space sequence is the stars. i never wanted to use generated starfields and instead wanted to use original starfields from the stare was movies . you will get repeated starfields because there is only so much area i can grab and combine to use to create a very hi res starfield that can be used for panning shots and fast movement. Its the same starfield i used for ANH:R and no one commented on that so i'm not too bothered by repeated star clusters. lol

 

Well now that you have your new HD camera, have you thought about going for real authenticity by recreating the stars just like they did for the films? I can't remember where I read/heard it but I remember one of the crew mentioning that all they did was punch holes into this black material (can't remember what it was specifically) with a pin and then backlit it. It would add a lot more authenticity to the stars as it would add a real twinkle to them when they're in motion. Think it would be worth a test to see how it looks? Imagine if it comes off real well and you could one-up the prequel effects crew with their digital starfields.

That would be impossible to do to get the scale needed for a starfield unfortunately. i would need a large studio and a hell of a lot of black material. Like i said, its exactly the same starfield i used in ANH:R and no one even noticed. plus that one shot of the stardestroyers wasn't from the finished video so it may even be different, but i'll have to check. Its the same with the Fx work though. I only ahve a limited amount of source material i can work with so sometimes i have to use the same element more than once. This is unavoidable when doing an edit like this unless i had access to the Lucasfilm vaults. I had a lot of people moan when i used some repeat elements in ANH:R but that really doesn't bother me. Its a means to an end.

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Sevb32 said:

Show me a shot in ANH:R that had the two of the same star patterns in the same frame. In the same frame is the problem.

There is no problem, really this is taking it a tad far no? lol

 

yeh, i think it is now. lol

 

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adywan said:

but with the only Fine Molds models i can find are on Ebay and are about £200, a quarter of that is just shipping to the Uk, its just a case of saving up as much as i can and preying there is still one available when i get the cash.

 

 

eBay isn't always the best option IMO. I've purchased multiple models throughout the years from this Hobby Link Japan, excellent service all around, as well as prices (£129). I fully recomend them so it's something you should really consider when the time comes to buying that marvelous Fine Molds MF, Ady:

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They actually have al of FM models in stock right now, in case you also need the Slave 1, X-wing, TIE's, etc.

http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?Maker1=FNM&MacroType=InjKit&GenreCode=Sci&Dis=2

 

yeh i had looked at that site and it comes to approx £200 with postage to the UK. I did find one that was going for a lot less that was in the Uk but i got outbid by £2 over my max bid right at the last second today, so i'm pretty gutted. I was so close to getting it too but i didn't have any extra cash to bid higher. i haven't seen any others in the Uk on the net that is any cheaper than getting one from abroad, but that's going to be a long way off because i need to save a lot more extra cash. i think what i'm going to have to do is just keep donations open until this edit is near completion, which is something i hoped that i wouldn't have to do again. And i though this was going to be the easy movie to do. lol

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Is there any way to make the AT-STs (if they're included) cockpit windows look like the AT-ATs, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaAju7mO6rI

I always thought that the way they were designed in JEDI made them look like they had droopy eyes (and not threatening).  Even if you had a reflective/black window as opposed to the glowing red/blue ones would still look better.

You know Ady, maybe that is something you could do with the AT-ATs on Hoth.  I know you took out the red windows, but what about reflective windows, like how some windows are on more modern buildings?  They wouldn't have to be mirrored, but more like how tinted windows look when sunlight reflects on them.

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i really don't like the designs they have done for the AT-ST's in that video. i really like the idea that the AT-AT's & AT-ST's don't have any sort of glass in them at all. It makes them more like real life tanks which just have open viewing slats so no reflective look to them i'm afraid.

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I've suggested before that I'm sure plenty of UK based guys over at Starship Modeler would be more than happy to loan him their SW models but Ady wants to do everything himself.

It would be great if i could get my hands on some good models rather than having to do everything myself, but i really do enjoy making these things and it would be too nerve racking if i was to borrow someone else's model and have to worry about it getting damaged.

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JediBorota said:

@ Adywan,

 

Instead of smashing the sets once you are done creating them...why don't you auction them off to your fans here??

I am sure that some of us would be more than happy to 'own' a piece of history in the Star Wars Revisited Timeline!!

 

Is that legal?

 

well i can't see why selling some hand built stuff would be illegal. There is no way i could possibly think of selling the sets though. The canyon alone is going to be 13ft & 3ft and the hangar is going to be huge also so no possible way to ship these things in one piece. I may, however, be selling the Wampa and some of the smaller things that i wouldn't be needing for any of the other films in the saga. But its getting the money together to get the things done in the first place that's the problem. lol

teharri said:

what do you guys think of removing the line Obi-wan says to Luke about how Yoda intructed him.

I thought it could just end with their you will learn from yoda, the jedi master.

 

Just a thought.

 

no, i prefer to change the PT to suit the OT so i will tackle this when i get to TPM:R

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i wasn't here during ANHR so i was wondering two things. ONE: why did ady cut out the jabba the hutt meeting with solo? and two, why did he change the way alderaan exploded. i don't care, just courious.

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Well, ONE: because Jabba looks awful. :p Right, Ady? That scene is on the DVD-9 in 3-D, though.

yeh you are correct there Ripplin. i also got rid of jabba because the scene just didn't need to be there and made Jabba look like a dick. It totally ruined his persona of being a feared gangster the second Han stepped on his tail. i cringed every time i saw that scene so it had to go. PLus most of the dialogue was moved to the Greedo scene when Jabba was originally taken out of the movie so the whole scene became redundant.

The Alderaan explosion i changed because i wanted to get rid of the whole Star Trek shock wave thing and have it looking more like a planet blowing up with debris more than just a plain explosion

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adywan said:

well i can't see why selling some hand built stuff would be illegal. There is no way i could possibly think of selling the sets though. The canyon alone is going to be 13ft & 3ft and the hangar is going to be huge also so no possible way to ship these things in one piece. I may, however, be selling the Wampa and some of the smaller things that i wouldn't be needing for any of the other films in the saga. But its getting the money together to get the things done in the first place that's the problem. lol

That's really big.  I mean, wow.  Are you actually going to fly the Falcon through it, to scale?!  That's impressive.

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You could re-use the canyon to do a video adaptation of the skyhopper race from the ANH Radio adaptation (that would make a really nice Easter egg somewhere).

Only joking, you have enough on your plate as it is ;-)

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adywan said:

well i can't see why selling some hand built stuff would be illegal. There is no way i could possibly think of selling the sets though. The canyon alone is going to be 13ft & 3ft and the hangar is going to be huge also so no possible way to ship these things in one piece. I may, however, be selling the Wampa and some of the smaller things that i wouldn't be needing for any of the other films in the saga. But its getting the money together to get the things done in the first place that's the problem. lol

That's really big.  I mean, wow.  Are you actually going to fly the Falcon through it, to scale?!  That's impressive.

no, the falcon & TIEs will be added later. it just needs to be pretty large to get the feeling of scale and long enough for the flight path for 4 shots. any smaller and it won't look too good. I'll be including all the filming and creating in the making of doc for the DVD

 

 

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adywan said:

well i can't see why selling some hand built stuff would be illegal. There is no way i could possibly think of selling the sets though. The canyon alone is going to be 13ft & 3ft and the hangar is going to be huge also so no possible way to ship these things in one piece. I may, however, be selling the Wampa and some of the smaller things that i wouldn't be needing for any of the other films in the saga. But its getting the money together to get the things done in the first place that's the problem. lol

 

 

Well, the only alternative I can think of is that you could take an INSANE number of photos of the larger sets, like the canyon and the hangar, for perusal by your many fans.

 

If I had any money to spare, I would gladly dispense some to see some of the models for this fan edit completed. Of course, hopefully by the time you're selling those models (maybe), we'll be sufficiently secure over here in the US of A (in a financial sense) where I would be able to purchase, like, the Wampa or something. (Which I can't really wait to see, by the way.)

 

Well... I guess... all I can say to Ady is... MTFBWY!

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adywan said:

no, the falcon & TIEs will be added later. it just needs to be pretty large to get the feeling of scale and long enough for the flight path for 4 shots. any smaller and it won't look too good. I'll be including all the filming and creating in the making of doc for the DVD

 

 

Cool. Is there going to be enough room on the dvd for a documentary? I mean, the special features last time were relatively short, as I remember. Was that for size reasons, or just by coincidence?

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I suppose, if it comes right down to it, special features could always be released seperately, as in a bonus DVD. Certainly the demand for it wouldn't be as high as demand for the main feature, but I'd definitely download it, and I suspect pretty much everyone else here would, too.

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Anyone scoured any model making sites or forums? Maybe they could help with Ady's workload, maybe they even have some already made that would work!

 

Ady, are you gonna use chicken wire and stucco covered with foam and carved to look like rock for the Falcon flying between the canyon walls model?

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adywan said:

The Alderaan explosion i changed because i wanted to get rid of the whole Star Trek shock wave thing and have it looking more like a planet blowing up with debris more than just a plain explosion

And that explosion came from Star Trek: Enterprise, dinnit? ;) I know you mean the Praxis explosion, though. Haha. ;)

 

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adywan said:

The Alderaan explosion i changed because i wanted to get rid of the whole Star Trek shock wave thing and have it looking more like a planet blowing up with debris more than just a plain explosion

And that explosion came from Star Trek: Enterprise, dinnit? ;) I know you mean the Praxis explosion, though. Haha. ;)

 

No, it was from the finale of SG1

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Ady, are you gonna use chicken wire and stucco covered with foam and carved to look like rock for the Falcon flying between the canyon walls model?

no, i will be using plaster to give it a that rock look

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Praxis explosion ftw. I wonder if all the starwars-only anti-trek fans know that Lucas included a Trekkish special effect in the SE? :P The irony is glorious.

 

 

Edit: I didn't see Ady's post. So... are we saying that the SE explosion was from SG-1, or the ANH:R one was?

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adywan said:
Ripplin said:
adywan said:

The Alderaan explosion i changed because i wanted to get rid of the whole Star Trek shock wave thing and have it looking more like a planet blowing up with debris more than just a plain explosion

And that explosion came from Star Trek: Enterprise, dinnit? ;) I know you mean the Praxis explosion, though. Haha. ;)

No, it was from the finale of SG1

Ah yes! Sorry. You can go about your business now.

Oh, and Praxis was also the name of a Buckethead supergroup. Haha.

 

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