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The Obama Deception - MUST SEE!

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Alex Jones The Obama Deception will be the first hard-hitting film to expose Obama, his agenda & handlers cutting through all the media hype, side-issues and Left/Right rhetoric. Alex has made several films exposing the Bush agenda and will approach the Obama Administrations plans from the same non-partisan point of view looking past the frontman in the White House to the real owners on Wall Street, in the Bilderberg group and at the Federal Reserve.

Please help spread the word about this powerful new film. Make sure everyone you know whether they claim to be a Democrat, Republican, independent or none of the above sees this film before it is too late.

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'S all on youtube too.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw .  While interesting, the video description of how Obama's leading us to a state similar to Nazi Germany kinda threw me off.

 

Don't we have a politics thread?

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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The links are a no-no, Im pretty sure they will get removed

Moth3r said: No, there is no video embedding option in this forum software (thank god!)

 

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No, this is legally available for free.  It's that kindof movie, so I doubt it.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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I'm pretty skeptical of anyone who claims to have secret insider knowledge into why the politician du jour is the greatest threat to freedom since Hitler.

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yeah, some people aren't satisfied until they personally label Obama as Hitler. (sigh)

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generalfrevious said:

yeah, some people aren't satisfied until they personally label Obama as Hitler. (sigh)

 

He did the same kind of documentary for Bush, he is just that typical conspiracy theory kind of guy. Don't act like he is just out to get your precious.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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I'm just leaving this thread, before I say anything else that's stupid

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Once somebody told me my hero (Superman) was a coward and a wimp, and that if it wasn't for his super powers he'd be a nobody. It kind of hurt me. So I know what you are going through right now.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Darth Chaltab said:

I'm pretty skeptical of anyone who claims to have secret insider knowledge into why the politician du jour is the greatest threat to freedom since Hitler.

You don't really need insider knowledge (at least not anymore).  You just need a knowledge of history.

3 or 4 years ago, I would've laughed any of these things off as typical conspiracy bullshit.  But listening to Geitner, Emmanuel, and Obama tells me that we're headed down a very dangerous road.  It didn't start with them, but it seems like it's going to get a whole lot worse under them.

 

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It is my feeling that America has reached her crossroads. Not saying this is the beginning of the decline, but this is the part where we take an exit on the highway without any means of turning back, at least not for a very, very long time.

We are turning down an old road that has been trodden on many times before, and just so long as we are allowed our televisions and our ball games undisturbed, we really don't give a shit where it takes us.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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C3PX said:

It is my feeling that America has reached her crossroads. Not saying this is the beginning of the decline, but this is the part where we take an exit on the highway without any means of turning back, at least not for a very, very long time.

We are turning down an old road that has been trodden on many times before, and just so long as we are allowed our televisions and our ball games undisturbed, we really don't give a shit where it takes us.

That's the sad part.  Most people are so wrapped up in everything else that they don't realize what's going on in Washington.  It's not even happening under the radar anymore either.

Just the fact that they talk about salary caps and government removal of CEOs that "pose a risk to the financial system" scares the shit out of me.  It'll start with the corporate executives and eventually move down to the common man.  Government rarely gives up power, they usually just slowly claim more and more.

 

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lordjedi said:

Government rarely never gives up power, they usually always just slowly claim more and more.

 

Fixed.

 

People are becoming so frightened to death of the evil rich people in the corporate world, they're ready to hand it all over to a much more dangerous entity. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. I am perfectly happy with the evil rich doing as they please, just so long as I am allowed to do as I please. If I decide the gov. should regulate them, then I am saying the gov. should regulate me. It is as simple as that.

Besides, the rich evil people in the corporate world are in bed with the government.

Any time you hear your leader say, Only the government can save us now* and the people agree, you know you're in for one hell of a painful ass raping.

 





*exact quote, "At this particular moment, only government can provide the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this deep and severe" which is pure BS. Government is exactly what got us here, and by the looks of things, government is what is going to keep us here. Soooo, lube up, bend over, and try to relax.

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Exactly.  Barney Frank is on video stating that Fannie and Freddie were fine.  A few months later they collapsed.  Now he's playing the saviour and talking about limiting corporate salaries.

I too am fine with corporate execs being evil and putting profits first.  Eventually it will catch up with them (assuming we allow it).  It's called bankruptcy.  If we don't allow bankruptcy to happen, we end up in a neverending cycle of bailouts.

EDIT: Perhaps I shouldn't say I'm totally fine with evil corporate execs.  I'm not totally fine with them, but I'm not about to ask the government to stop them or bail them out.  I vote with my wallet.  If I think they're doing something that's illegal or should be illegal, I'll ask my representatives to pass laws to stop them and I'll stop doing business with them in the meantime (see Circuit City for a prime example).  Since I rarely see a company do anything illegal (I don't think deceptive marketing is wrong, I think people need to wake the freak up and pay attention to what they agree to), then I really have no problems with most of them.

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lordjedi said:

EDIT: Perhaps I shouldn't say I'm totally fine with evil corporate execs.  I'm not totally fine with them, but I'm not about to ask the government to stop them or bail them out. 

 

I agree. I am not completely fine with them either, but they are most certainly the lesser of two evils here. It is like throwing a mean vicous dog in your backyard to keep the cats out. Great, no more cat problem, but what the hell are you going to do about this huge dog that growls and nips at you everytime you consider going into your backyard? I'd rather have the cats.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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It is quite long. I haven't seen the whole thing myself, but so far, after 40 minuets, I'm not buying this. I just don't believe that Obama is behind this whole conspiracy to turn America into a fascist society. I'm not really sure what it is suggesting at this point. It seems it is suggesting that Obama's agenda is really to carry the same policies of the Bush administration.

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The crap about Obama's federal health care plan being restricted and denying coverage is a load of balonga. By making medicare accasable to all will make the insurance companies compete and will lower the cost and increase coverage.

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I agree with Obama on climate change issues. I beleive in taxing forms of pollution to help counter greenhouse gas emissions.

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After watching the entirety of "The Obama Deception" I can say that most of it was crap. I do agree with the movie on some things like Obama's decisions on the current banking crisis. I do beleive it was engineered and Obama should've put a stop to the bail-outs, but I don't know if he has the power to do that.

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Of course, I am sure if you watched the documentary the same guy did about Bush, you'd be inclinded to believe every word of it.

I also think the above documentary is a complete load of crap. But be sure you don't believe what you believe simply because it is what you want to believe. Is this a case of letting your hero only be reduced to a degree you are willing to reduce him too (i.e. "I can say that most of it was crap. I do agree with the movie on some things...)? Is the only reason the harsher accusations against the guy are crap in your opinion because they simply cannot be true based on the loan merit that the guy is Obama?

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Janskeet said:

The crap about Obama's federal health care plan being restricted and denying coverage is a load of balonga. By making medicare accasable to all will make the insurance companies compete and will lower the cost and increase coverage.

Actually Janskeet, it does the opposite and we have Hawaii as proof.  Hawaii instituted a healthcare plan where those without healthcare could get State provided care for free.  The idea was that people without it would take it.  What happened is that everyone started dropping their own healthcare and getting the State provided healthcare.  Insurance companies can't compete with "free".  They have since had to drop the State plan because so many people signed up.

We also have Canada as a prime example.  By fixing medical costs, they've increased costs everywhere else.  In Canada, the healthcare is great as long as you don't get sick.  Prescriptions are cheap there because the government said "You can only charge this much".  So now the pharmeceuticals charge more in the US in order to recoup their costs.

In Europe, they have a committee that decides if you get treatment for things like cancer or not.  If you can survive for another year with treatment, you get treatment.  If you can't, then you don't get treatment.  I believe the cost estimate they use is $57,000.  If it's going to cost more than that and you won't survive the year, then you don't get treatment.  Europeans actually come to the US in droves for cancer treatments and other major surgeries because it can take months to get treatment over there.

Contrast all of that with lasik.  10 years ago lasik was thousands of dollars per eye.  Today it's a few hundred.  That's what happens when you have real competition.

We have seen time and time again that when the federal government gets involved, companies back out.  You cannot compete with the feds since they provide it for "free" (they want to cover everyone, right?).  Unfortunately, at some point, they run out of other peoples money (the feds use taxes to pay for it all) and then they start either denying coverage or just delaying it.

 

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Janskeet said:

After watching the entirety of "The Obama Deception" I can say that most of it was crap. I do agree with the movie on some things like Obama's decisions on the current banking crisis. I do beleive it was engineered and Obama should've put a stop to the bail-outs, but I don't know if he has the power to do that.

If it was engineered, then it was engineered by Democrats after 2006.  As I said in a previous post, Barney Frank is on video saying that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were doing fine and that was months before the government took them over.  Of course both Republicans and Democrats are to blame for the current mess.  Alan Greenspan deserves a lot of the blame for keeping rates so low that so many people who couldn't afford to buy homes were able to.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/apr2009/obam-a15.shtml

That was 5 days ago.  It seems to me that Obama doesn't want to stop the bailouts.  He's even preventing some of the banks from giving the money back by trying to convert the TARP money into equity investments.  That would give the government even more control than they already have.  That's why the banks are in such a rush to pay that money back.  They've seen what happened with GMs CEO getting fired and they don't want that happening to them.

Obama said that more "transparency and accountability" may be necessary this past weekend at a news conference after the summit of the Americas.  That was in answer to a question on whether or not bank CEOs and other executives may be asked to leave if the banks don't start to improve.  That sounds to me like he'll have no problem firing more CEOs.  That, to me, is a very scary situation.  The President and the government should not be deciding who wins and who loses.  When they start doing that, they aren't going to stop at the banks.

 

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