TheBoost said:Vaderisnothayden said:Great. I find a cool way in which the prequels screwed up and then you guys want to defend the bloody prequels. Sometimes I just don't get people.
Judging by what we see onscreen, kid clones must be cloned off Boba and adult ones off Jango. And if there's a third clone actor (I didn't notice) there must be a third clone template (another son of Jango?). So yeah the clone army is based on more than one guy and the Kaminoans failed to mention it.
Presumably the Jango clones were done earlier and later the Kaminoans moved on to cloning Boba, hence the older ones looking like Jango and the younger ones looking like Boba. Also, the Kaminoans are both a bit shifty (they pretend they're all cloned from one guy) and maybe a bit dumb (they think they can pass off all the clones as one guy) or maybe human faces just look all the same to them so they think they'll look the same to Kenobi. The shiftiness may be down to having an alien mentality with possibly a different moral system and different values and modes of behavior. Kenobi doesn't comment on the kid clones being different from the adult ones. Maybe he's just being polite. Kenobi is a polite sort of guy. Maybe he's being underhanded in his own way. That's in character too.
This is the most twisted wierd and convoluted explanation I've ever heard to justify ignoring the simplest possible expanation... the kid is a clone, they're all clones, played by different actors at different ages because that's the reality of filmmaking.
You're honestly suggesting that the film would have been improved if lil' Boba was running around in his helmet all the time so that the audience wouldn't have to see that the kid playing him wasn't a perfect enough dead-ringer for the dude playing Jango. Or they made a CGI-Boba based on pictures of the actor who played Jango when he was young. (these are both terrible ideas)
This is not 'a cool way the Prequals screwed up.' This is bending over backwards to find a flaw where really none exists. If you don't like Boba being a clone, fine. I hate Boba being a clone too. I hate Boba being in the PT at all. But this is just silly. If it wasn't from you, I'd assume this was a parody of fan-complaints.
Yes a flaw exists here. They COULD have gotten an actor who could actually pass for a young Temuera Morrison but they didn't. There's no bending over backwards to find a flaw here. The discrepancy between the two actors just SHOUTS out at you. It's an OBVIOUS problem that very much exists
This is the most twisted wierd and convoluted explanation I've ever heard to justify ignoring the simplest possible expanation... the kid is a clone, they're all clones, played by different actors at different ages because that's the reality of filmmaking.
It's hardly that twisted or convoluted. It's pretty simple actually. Quite plausible. More plausible than a lot of the bullshit we got in the prequels.l
And the reality of filmmaking does not justify trying to pass off two actors who look very different as being basically the same guy while having them side by side onscreen together. Particularly not when it's all in support of a bullshit revisionist plot point. Does not work. My explanation works a lot better. And I don't NEED to provide an explanation. It's Lucas's mess, so he's the only one who needs to provide an explanation. All I need to do is point out the problem, that passing Logan off as a clone of Morrison doesn't work.
You're honestly suggesting that the film would have been improved if lil' Boba was running around in his helmet all the time so that the audience wouldn't have to see that the kid playing him wasn't a perfect enough dead-ringer for the dude playing Jango. Or they made a CGI-Boba based on pictures of the actor who played Jango when he was young. (these are both terrible ideas)
Anything would be better than what they did. But I'd have preferred if they just found a kid actor who looked like Temuera Morrison. Or if they'd avoided the whole thing by not sticking in the whole Boba-is-a-clone-of-Jango business.