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Yeah, thanks for posting that picture, Sev. Very nice! :)

Bingowings said:

vaderios said:

ImperialFighter said:

Considering how good the new background looks in the ION Cannon shot too, I just wonder what the final look of some of the shots of the AT-AT battle might also show....

I double hope for that ;) Considering the continuous Sky/weather/Sun changing.

Fingers Crossed :)

 

-Angel

 

I've got my fingers crossed for a few more AT-STs (seeing them back in 1980 was super cool) I know they only appeared from the side in two shots but it made the Empire seem a bit bigger (like the Tie Bombers) because they had a few items in their armoury which they only broke out for specific jobs (in this case scouting around).

there are only a handful of backgrounds that really need changing in the battle. As for more AT-St's in the battle, unless i can find someone who can produce a movie quality CG animation or make a stop motion model its going to be a no go for adding any more.

Sevb32 said:

RoccondilRinon said:

 

Was watching ESB:GOUT tonight and made a new observation.

If you look outside the base doors as they’re being closed, it’s very dark outside (you can see twilight on the horizon), but in the next scene (Luke’s vision and Han finding him) it’s still daylight. The distance between the two locations would not be sufficient to explain the difference in light levels; it’d have to be at least a few hundred miles on an Earth-sized planet. If we take the idea that only equatorial Hoth is habitable (borne out in the EU but also by a simple consideration of the basic physics involved), that minimum stretches to 1000 miles. Darkening the second scene would help continuity and also (in my opinion) add tension. Should be quite simple to achieve compared to the rest of what Adywan’s doing for this film. Your thoughts, Ady?

 

 

Also when Luke collapses before seeing Kenobi's spirit, I hate how the amount of snow on Luke changes from shot to shot. From a lot to a little and back.

the scene was darkened for the SE. plus twilight would seem a lot lighter when outside due to the snow coverage. i hate the way the amount of snow on luke changes too but there isn't much i can do about it i'm afraid.

Chrille said:

adywan said: I want the battle to put the opening ROTS one to shame for scale. that alone is going to cost me a fortune to pull off because i need to build new models and a few full size cockpit sets as well as a few creatures and costumes

If it would save you money, ady, maybe you could tone down the battle in Reveng of the Sith a bit when you get to that edit? I always felt that the ROTS one was too cluttered, there is so much going on at once it's making me disy, and it's hard to even make out who's firing at whom. By decluttering it you could hopefully save a little money in ROTJ:RV, and sort of allow ROTJ and ROTS to meet in the middle, to borrow a phrase from ben dancer.

Enigmas said:

I'll admit, alot of EU is garbage, but for the sake of the good stuff, I hope Adywan doesn't kill off Lando and the Falcon or have Boba Fett dodge getting eaten by the Sarlacc Pit. Or anything too dramatic.

i don't want to have to tone down the ROTS battle just to save a lot of work and money on ROTJ:R. Ifr its going to be done i want it to be done right. The new ROTJ ending will need a lot of FX work and it needs the bitter-sweet ending that it would originally have had. this is supposed to be the fight to end all fights yet our heros escape unharmed (apart from a flesh wound with Leia). As i have said before the EU has nothing to do with the Revisited edits so i'm not too bothered if some of my decisions screw with the EU. I have the ROTJ:R ending already planned in my head which will take away the rehash of ANH feeling i always get when watching ROTJ. But you have to wait a few years to find out what i really have planned. lol

Bewy said:

In a desperate attempt to come back on topic :D :

I may have mentioned it some time ago, but I've noticed quite some continuity error during the Cloud City escape; indeed, we see Chewie sitting in the cockpit, and 3PO is visible in the background. Yet, right after this short shot, we see R2 dragging his friend on the floor, and he was not visible in the previous shot, where we should have seen him at least arrive and attach wires to 3PO or something like that.

yes, i will be doing something to address this continuity error.

Asteroid-Man said:

That was very impressive! The only thing that bothered me was how brown Yoda looked...

Yoda should have a brown colouring to him. he always has ever since 1980 in that scene. Its all to do with the way the scene is lit. the orange glow from the fire will change the green colouring somewhat. but you can tell he is still green.

Matticon said:

Wow, this forum went way off topic for awhile.

 

Ady, with all the stuff you have planned you will need to do some sub-contracting. That is too much for a one man job! I need to learn some video editing programs and help you out! Or perhaps we could get some people making costumes, building sets etc...

The one thing that i love about doing these edits is that i am learning new ways to do thing all the time. I prefer to do as much of the work needed myself rather than get someone else to do it. CG work is the one thing that i would have to pass onto someone else to do because i just can't get a grip with 3D programs. But if i can do it with a model or set piece then thats what i would prefer to use.

doubleofive said:

Hey Ady!  I built you a new TIE Fighter model for the shots you're redoing!

Admittedly, its a little small, and its starting to stink.  Just realized I should have used a blue egg...

More Pics

love it. now i can add more TIEs to the Bespin escape. lol

doubleofive said:

I think the answer lies with Ady buying one of these:

Master Replicas Studio Scale Falcon

and inserting it into whatever mattes need work.  At least, that would be the most awesome answer.

That would be a dream come true if i could get one of those. there are some shots that i need to replace the falcon and it would be invaluable for ROTJ:R , but alas that would just be a pipe dream at that price. I have been looking into getting one of the fine molds Millennium Falcons because with a little work i can get it to match the studio model, but again that's out of my price range at the moment with everything else i need to purchase. oh well

Monroville said:

FINAL SCENE WITH REBEL FLEET:
clips seen here and here:

Whether the galaxy shots are changed to something else (to show the fleet hiding in a nebula or around a black hole, etc), the galaxy is modified with a better looking one or you bring the galaxy closer so we can see the spiral arms in the other fleet shots, is there any way to maybe make the fleet bigger as well as work on some of the ships?

If not add new designs or slightly mod the ones we currently see (like maybe make the "neck" on the frigate Luke and Co. are on a bit thicker, as it seems rather flimsy and an easy way to get the ship destroyed), I say the flight paths of the ships could definitely use some work.  Watch the second clip and look at how the frigate is moving in comparison with the other ships - is it just me or does that look a little awkward?

Maybe you could just change the transport on the lower left to point to the left from the get-go so it doesn't look like it's about to ram the frigate... and could we make the frigate engines orange or blue too?

Also, at 7:01, would it be conceivable to make the docking arm thicker or move it to where the portal Lando went out to get Luke on Bespin?

And could we open a button or two on Lando's shirt (at 7:04)?  I'm not gay or anything but he looks like a dork with the shirt buttoned all the way up; no self-respecting playa would wear a shirt like that.

And at 7:55, maybe the medical droid in the background could move a little bit?

I won't be changing the galaxy shot at the end. thats one thing i have always loved and i can't see why many want it changing. there are a couple of shots at the beginning of the scene where it needs its position changing  to fix continuity problems but thats about it.

that rebel transport that almost rams the frigate has always bugged me as has the static ships in the background. nothing looks right in that shot at all. I've tried a few things to eliminate the transport but because it covers the front end of the frigate i can't see  a way of eliminating it yet. this will probably be one of the last shots i do.

the neck on the frigate as well as the docking arm don't need changing to me. the thickness wouldn't matter in space due to having no gravity. just look on our space stations just how flimsy they are build yet the docking section of that is fine for the shuttle.

The medical droid issue has already been fixed.

and why open a button on Landos shirt? got to admit, that does sound gay. lol

so far i have worked out what i need to build to accomplish this edit:

New rebel hangar model to replace the matte shots including a studio quality rebel transport
New Wampa plus arm with articulated hand
Inside of Slug Mouth
Extra snowspeeder models
Large hangar exterior model to replace mattes
Shield generator model
A few extra ships for the end fleet to replace obvious matte of background ships

there are a few other small things that may need making also. So many things left to do so i'm glad i gave ESB:R a 2010 deadline

adywan said:

there are a few other small things that may need making also. So many things left to do so i'm glad i gave ESB:R a 2010 deadline

It all sounds great.  Can't wait to see some of the models in progress.  The logistics of doing all that blows my mind!

Heck, I had problems sticking the cardboard wings on an easter egg!

I m already working on the new hangar matte!

-Angel

adywan said:

The new ROTJ ending will need a lot of FX work and it needs the bitter-sweet ending that it would originally have had. this is supposed to be the fight to end all fights yet our heros escape unharmed (apart from a flesh wound with Leia). As i have said before the EU has nothing to do with the Revisited edits so i'm not too bothered if some of my decisions screw with the EU. I have the ROTJ:R ending already planned in my head which will take away the rehash of ANH feeling i always get when watching ROTJ. But you have to wait a few years to find out what i really have planned. lol

Hmm, Han Solo's prophecy fulfilled. maybe? ;)

"Yeah, I just got a funny feeling. Like I'm never gonna see her again."

adywan said:

I won't be changing the galaxy shot at the end. thats one thing i have always loved and i can't see why many want it changing. there are a couple of shots at the beginning of the scene where it needs its position changing  to fix continuity problems but thats about it.

that rebel transport that almost rams the frigate has always bugged me as has the static ships in the background. nothing looks right in that shot at all. I've tried a few things to eliminate the transport but because it covers the front end of the frigate i can't see  a way of eliminating it yet. this will probably be one of the last shots i do.

the neck on the frigate as well as the docking arm don't need changing to me. the thickness wouldn't matter in space due to having no gravity. just look on our space stations just how flimsy they are build yet the docking section of that is fine for the shuttle.

The medical droid issue has already been fixed.

and why open a button on Landos shirt? got to admit, that does sound gay. lol

 

Eh, it's not a matter of completely replacing the shot, but making it more akin to what Vaderios did (just make the galaxy look a little better). I still have an issue with the Falcon just flying off the screen, as opposed to heading towards the galaxy.

The neck thing is an issue for combat not gravity.  Yeah, gravity has no effect, but it makes the ship pretty flimsy in a fight with a Star Destroyer (you know, like in JEDI?)  In fact, that would be kinda cool to see an SD break one in half by blowing up the "neck" and showing the front and back half spinning off..

And as far as Lando's shirt: c'mon!  I'm talking about a button or two on his SHIRT, not his pants!  Sheesh!  >:)

And when you say 2010, do you mean something like Spring 2010 or Fall 2010?

Ady,

I asked this in the other thread, but since it's kind of a crossover question...since you're going to have to take time out to generate so many models and such to create new shots for ESB:R, when do you think you'll be at a stopping point to shift sideways and whip up ROTJ AVCHD?  At least complete that set for us while we wait for Revisited.

Ziz said:

Ady,

I asked this in the other thread, but since it's kind of a crossover question...since you're going to have to take time out to generate so many models and such to create new shots for ESB:R, when do you think you'll be at a stopping point to shift sideways and whip up ROTJ AVCHD?  At least complete that set for us while we wait for Revisited.

there probably isn't going to be any stopping point. i'll still be working on the video aspects of ESB:R while i am building the models so its all non stop work until the video side of things is finished. The AVCHD project is probably dead until 2010

adywan said:

Chrille said:

adywan said: I want the battle to put the opening ROTS one to shame for scale. that alone is going to cost me a fortune to pull off because i need to build new models and a few full size cockpit sets as well as a few creatures and costumes

If it would save you money, ady, maybe you could tone down the battle in Reveng of the Sith a bit when you get to that edit? I always felt that the ROTS one was too cluttered, there is so much going on at once it's making me disy, and it's hard to even make out who's firing at whom. By decluttering it you could hopefully save a little money in ROTJ:RV, and sort of allow ROTJ and ROTS to meet in the middle, to borrow a phrase from ben dancer.

Enigmas said:

I'll admit, alot of EU is garbage, but for the sake of the good stuff, I hope Adywan doesn't kill off Lando and the Falcon or have Boba Fett dodge getting eaten by the Sarlacc Pit. Or anything too dramatic.

i don't want to have to tone down the ROTS battle just to save a lot of work and money on ROTJ:R. Ifr its going to be done i want it to be done right. The new ROTJ ending will need a lot of FX work and it needs the bitter-sweet ending that it would originally have had. this is supposed to be the fight to end all fights yet our heros escape unharmed (apart from a flesh wound with Leia). As i have said before the EU has nothing to do with the Revisited edits so i'm not too bothered if some of my decisions screw with the EU. I have the ROTJ:R ending already planned in my head which will take away the rehash of ANH feeling i always get when watching ROTJ. But you have to wait a few years to find out what i really have planned. lol

So what I got out of that is: Lando dies...... anyways, Wow, that alot of stuff to do, you do go to the gym reguraly right? I wish I could help money wise, but you sir really make george your own bitch! Good Job! (really) lol. 2010 will be here before I know it, or not :[

Are there any plans to update the mynocks

Boards such as the the Replica Prop Forum http://www.therpf.com/ and the Replica Prop Board http://theukpropparty.yuku.com/ have guys making Studio Quality Miniatures of Star Wars models and Costumes etc... that would be perfect for some of the shots, there are even Stop Motion Replicas of the Taun Taun and the AT-ST getting built.

again deviating from ESB:R to ROTJ:R.....c'mon guys let's "stay on target" with ESB. Mynocks where brought up again....and I like the idea of better dashboards on ships!

"Adywan" said:

there are a few other small things that may need making also. So many things left to do so i'm glad i gave ESB:R a 2010 deadline

"Sevb32" said:

So my hope of ESB:R being done by Christmas 2009 are dashed?

 I second that sevb32; Ady what happened to the Christmas 2009 deadline?

Harry up then! 2012 is coming.....

-Angel

Sevb32 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

ROTJ definitely needs a complete restructuring. There is a good movie in that mediocre jumble somewhere, but it can't be brought out by new effects and continuity polishes - it *needs* major story changes, in some ways more so than the prequels.

While I'm pretty sure Ady said there will be *no* purist version for Empire, I think it's a real possibility for Jedi.

And yeah, ESB:R will definitely not be done by Christmas. I'd say spring/summer 2010. May 21, 2010 would be really cool - 30 years to the day after its theatrical release.

 

From what I've seen there is no need for a purist version of Empire:R since there are no major story changes.  ROTJ on the other hand if he's gonna ax Lando I beg and plead for a purist version.

there will be no purist version of ROT:J ever. There was a reason why i did a purist version for ANH:R and that reason doesn't count for ROTJ:R. In fact i might run a competition sometime to see if anyone can figure out the real reason behind the purist edition. Some of the changes will be controversial but these changes need to happen. Jedi really needs that bitter sweet ending and an ending to wrap up the whole saga. it also needs to steer away from being a rehash of ANH. The idea was there from the beginning, as can be seen in Han's line, but that lead nowhere. I'm not going to budge on the ending, i'm afraid. in fact the only thing that will make me change my mind is if i can't pull it off convincingly

AuggieBenDoggie said:

"Sevb32" said:

So my hope of ESB:R being done by Christmas 2009 are dashed?

 I second that sevb32; Ady what happened to the Christmas 2009 deadline?

The Xmas 2009 deadline went out of the window the second i needed to make and film new model elements

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Boards such as the the Replica Prop Forum http://www.therpf.com/ and the Replica Prop Board http://theukpropparty.yuku.com/ have guys making Studio Quality Miniatures of Star Wars models and Costumes etc... that would be perfect for some of the shots, there are even Stop Motion Replicas of the Taun Taun and the AT-ST getting built.

Although it would be great to have the guys from this forum on board the problem would be filming the models. I can't see, and i certainly wouldn't want to risk anyone lending me these models in order to film them. too many risks of damage in transit involved for me to take the risk