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Is it just me or does the color on the 2004 dvd's actually look better than the original in this instance.  I am referring to the images from Bingowings above.

teharri said:Is it just me or does the color on the 2004 dvd's actually look better than the original in this instance.  I am referring to the images from Bingowings above.

 Which images are do you mean teharri?

"May I suggest a new strategy...Artoo let the humans win" :

haha, that one is pretty cool.

hey those planet clips are really cool,

found this after watching it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzXbd80TjM&NR=1

its a walkthrough of a computer game evel based on the endor bunker. i wonder if there are any games (or modded content for games) that could be put together to convincingly make a more interesting assault on the bunker?

Definitely a good proof-of-concept, Davnes.  Rough, yes, but it proves it can work without looking like it's unnecessary or "there because we could do it."

doubleofive said:

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As you can see, there's no stripe in the long shot.  Nor is there one on Vader's shuttle on his approach:

"Ah," but you say, "Vader's shuttle isn't the Emperor's therefore no stripe!"

Then why are there two stripes on Vader's when he lands?!

First, sorry about all the pictures.

 The stripes are the same in function (to the filmmakers and the audience) as the stripes on the X-wings.  They are a design feature that was thought up to distinguish one shuttle from the other.  Especially in the live shots where the actual shuttle set was used for at least three and maybe four different shuttles. 

Palpatine's shuttle had one stripe perhaps to designate it as the Star Wars equivelent of Air Force One.  Vader has two stripes and others don't have anyway.  They were likely just stuck onto the prop and removed as needed.  The nose of the shuttle prop also has a colored piece that was removed as well.

And then when filming began, the concept was scrapped.  So the models and the sets don't match the matte paintings.

One stripe:

Note also the stripe on the nose of the shuttle that sort of matches the matte painting:

Here is Vader's shuttle with two stripes:

But it doesn't explain this which has one stripe:

And the Tyderium set-piece was repainted to make the shuttle the rebels were flying a bit more grungy and closer to the rebel's style.

So maybe the set designers, propmakers and painters had a plan for the stripes, but it doesn't show in the final product.

EyeShotFirst said:

I played around with this picture for about 10 to 20 minutes and I was able to just about remove the sabers and their gigantic fat blurs so then I made the sabers you see from scratch how do you like. I know I only edited a picture but doesnt it work about the same way with video.

Well, that looks about right.

Sluggo I think colour stripe should return, it would be the easiest way to make the shuttles look different from each other (though I think what with Palpatine replacing the blue guard with the red, the stripe should be red to reflect this colour scheme).

I've never heard of this factoid before and I suppose I was hypnotised into not noticing the matte missmatch so thanks for pointing it out.

Now I have an whole new Doh! moment to notice when watch Jedi ;-)

Bingowings said:

teharri said:Is it just me or does the color on the 2004 dvd's actually look better than the original in this instance.  I am referring to the images from Bingowings above.

 Which images are do you mean teharri?

 

"May I suggest a new strategy...Artoo let the humans win" :

 

 I was talking about the ROTJ images you posted. The hanger looks crisp and better. I always feel we talk about what the 2004 DVD's did wrong, but in this case to me the did some good.

I think you mean the ones doubleofive posted which explains my confusion.

The picture is more crisp in the 2004 DVD because it had an extensive restoration done on it and was digitally remastered specifically for the DVD format but the colour has some of (but not quite as bad) the tinting that made weird all the SE DVD sets and then there is Vader's pink sabre (the most pink in ROTJ) and all the sound problems.

If the OUT had been restored to the same degree and remastered and presented well (instead of being essentially a LD transfer) I imagine it wouldn't have got the GOUT moniker.

Even then it should have been in the 2004 box set and the SE discs should have been treated with more care and given a proper sound mix but then if we had that I imagine that some of the creative people on here wouldn't have hung around for so long and newer people like myself wouldn't have joined on.

So George when he does something wrong still does some good, from a certain point of view.

Davnes you are definatly on a roll at the moment lovely stuff.

I still think a blue/green ringed gas giant like Uranus or Neptune would be a better contrast with Yavin (and less like Saturn which is what usually springs to mind when people think of ringed planets) but that's just my personal preference.

Keep up the good work.

i don't know about endor looking like saturn

maybe this combined with this:

will give the gas giant some unique look

I was thinking more along these lines (the land masses and oceans spoil the gas giant look) :