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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 31

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I'm such a terrible jaded film nerd that I really couldn't help but notice but that's part of the fun.

Out of Chekov's ear and almost into Padme's, nice job though, especially the recolouring and light adjustment.

We are the sort of people who bugger up peoples enjoyment of films by pointing out flip shots so not noticing the Ceti Alpha V earwiggy things and the like is unlikely but then I want Edward James Olmos in Jedi so who am I to talk?

While we are on the subject of inserting celebrity cameos into Star Wars films I'm keen to stick Sun Ra onto the Jedi Council too.

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OH please! On the purple saber complaints.

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If anyone has seen the www.pinkfive.com spots, could it be conceivable to get the guy who does their Obi-Wan impersonations to dub over Ewan's lines?  Ewan is one of the better actors in the PTs, but that's not saying much.  It wouldn't just be a matter of having someone who sounds even more like Alec Guinness but also someone who could impart a little more seriousness...

And those DARK SIDE clips are pretty amazing!  It goes to show that even with just the editing you can damn near completely alter the feel of the movie.  Add in some different music (I love the add-in of the RAIDERS Marion music) and redub damn near all the voices and we may just have something!

You know, after watching this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzZ-MkX27I&feature=channel), is there any way someone could do a reverse TEMPLE OF DOOM (with the bar in Shanghai called OBI WAN) and name the bar MARCUS' PLACE, TYRELL'S or something along that line?

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

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Monroville said:

If anyone has seen the www.pinkfive.com spots, could it be conceivable to get the guy who does their Obi-Wan impersonations to dub over Ewan's lines?  Ewan is one of the better actors in the PTs, but that's not saying much.  It wouldn't just be a matter of having someone who sounds even more like Alec Guinness but also someone who could impart a little more seriousness...

And those DARK SIDE clips are pretty amazing!  It goes to show that even with just the editing you can damn near completely alter the feel of the movie.  Add in some different music (I love the add-in of the RAIDERS Marion music) and redub damn near all the voices and we may just have something!

You know, after watching this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzZ-MkX27I&feature=channel), is there any way someone could do a reverse TEMPLE OF DOOM (with the bar in Shanghai called OBI WAN) and name the bar MARCUS' PLACE, TYRELL'S or something along that line?

The Lao Che Club, Nurhaci Bar, all good options (even if only Aurebesh readers would know).

Jon Culshaw (famous for his Tom Baker impersonation) also does a really good Alec Guinness : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qT2tPZtcz8

 

 

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Someone else came up with the idea of not even showing Vader in his suit in ROTS; the idea being that if you were to design the Prequels to fit with the Originals (so you could watch all 6 in order and not give away any surprises), then you would have to have Anakin called "Anakin" throughout the entire Ep I-III run and the last we see is him burning up. 

That way when Vader makes his entrance in A NEW HOPE, you have no idea he is the same person until EMPIRE and JEDI.  It would also help the "helmetless scene" in EMPIRE turn into a clue as to who Darth really is even before he makes his reveal to Luke at the end.

This would also mean that you couldn't show Obi-Wan on Tatooine giving Luke to Owen either, though it could be more dramatic to simply show a ship flying away with Padme's unnamed son, fate uncertain (if the Padme Organa idea is used, Leia would stay behind to continue the family line)

There is a Gary Kurtz interview link on the EMPIRE:R thread that I think everyone should read (as far as what JEDI "could" have been):

Key points:
(1) Vader was continuing in his quest to have Luke join him to destroy and replace the Emperor, but not so much out of conquest so much as a means of atonement.
(2) Leia was to be crowned Queen, as Luke wandered off to find his sister and become a full-fledged Jedi Knight (which would have been the impetus for the next 3 movies)

http://io9.com/5196334/this-may-be-the-star-wars-movie-youre-looking-for

Full interview at:

http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=interviews&Id=8


Bingowings:

I get the Lao Che, but what does Nurhaci reference? Also, while you wouldn't make it plain english, you could always have the bar name done in a way like the new PRINCESS BRIDE blu-ray (where the style is alien, but you can still read it if you look hard enough)

EDIT - ah, is that the Emperor in the container Jones gives to Lao?  Heh, heh, that would be a good name to use...
Then again, you would't have to call it "... Bar" or "... Place"; you could just call it LAO CHE or JAR NURHACI (which sounds appropriately STAR WARS).

In that regards, maybe one could take some clips of Kenny Baker (say from TIME BANDITS or WILLOW) to use for a few brief scenes as the owner (JAR NURHACI) of the bar (to further reference Indy Jones' comments when he hands over the Jade vial)... you know, the little guy in the jar?

         

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Though I have said that re-colouring isn't that radical a change, there may be one possible exception.

Everyone seems to agree that the TPM puppet was rubbish, but this kind of happened by accident so perhaps someone could try and replicate the effect?

Yoda Puppet less rubbish?

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The original is very low in contrast but please give it a go yourself as I said I was actually trying to do something else and it just suddenly started looking like Yoda (of all people).

It would be funny if a colour change could rescue the ugliest puppet in the Star Wars universe.

++UPDATE++

I'm beginning to think this looks more Yodaish because the contrast is too high (it's making those awful eyes actually look dark like the Yoda of old).

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Dear Lord it's Denis Healey:

Mr Mentat

Oh again no, this is Denis Healey.

Dennis Healey

I've never seen that MTV parody before, worked rather well it did, humm?

The real biggy is the lack of jaw line and cleft chin in the OT Yoda (who built the TPM puppet Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon)?

It doesn't matter what I do I can't get it to look (character wise) quite as right as my accidental effort, this one looks like Jimmy Savile:

Jimmy Yoda

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with all the prequel edits by other editors i think i'm going to do one episode 2

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replacing the scene with ani and pad talking about sand, and the meadow scene (the worst cliche in romance) with the deleted scene of padme's family and room. (i think it kind of makes their chemistry subtle similar to han and leia)

color correcting scenes that are to colorful and bright so it carries an ot feeling (inspired by vaderous manips)

cutting out the scene where ani is trying to get inside padme's pants

making all jedi lightsabers blue except for dooku and yoda's which will be green

dooku is a grey jedi (inspired by jason)

threepio and r2 remain in the ship after ani and padme leaves

this is what i can think of at the moment

anyone know where i can download episode 2 in high quality?

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Bingowings said:

Jimmy Yoda

Good but i think that the whole sunset feeling is lost with all the orange gone ;)

anyone know where i can download episode 2 in high quality?

Rapidshare!

 

-Angel

 

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Darth Piccolo said:

anyone know where i can download episode 2 in high quality?


 

.... no comment.   -_-

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JasonN said:
Darth Piccolo said:

anyone know where i can download episode 2 in high quality?


 

.... no comment.   -_-

 

i already have the dvd if that's what you're asking about

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vaderios said: Good but i think that the whole sunset feeling is lost with all the orange gone ;)

Sunset Yoda

On second thoughts he looks more like Doc Brown, especially with that hair.

"Our intelligence points to disgruntled Libyans looking for some crazy wide eyed scientist."

The puppet is beyond saving by just colouring/lighting adjustment (I just got a bit excited when I saw the puppet looking a bit more like Yoda).

 

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Bingowings said:

The puppet is beyond saving by just colouring/lighting adjustment (I just got a bit excited when I saw the puppet looking a bit more like Yoda).

 

Or with newly CGI or already footage with heavy modifications.

I think we will never know when George lucas will die if he has a 3d replica to change him ( see S1mone)

Pity very Pity

 

-Angel

 

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Monroville said:

If anyone has seen the www.pinkfive.com spots, could it be conceivable to get the guy who does their Obi-Wan impersonations to dub over Ewan's lines?  Ewan is one of the better actors in the PTs, but that's not saying much.  It wouldn't just be a matter of having someone who sounds even more like Alec Guinness but also someone who could impart a little more seriousness...

Whoever you get to impersonate Alec Guinness, I think that he should try to impersonate the voice of Alec Guinness in an earlier work, when he was younger. I think that the tone of voice that Obi-Wan uses as Luke's mentor would be inappropriate for most of the prequels, as he is not in that role and in other circumstances.

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Darth Lars said:
Monroville said:

If anyone has seen the www.pinkfive.com spots, could it be conceivable to get the guy who does their Obi-Wan impersonations to dub over Ewan's lines?  Ewan is one of the better actors in the PTs, but that's not saying much.  It wouldn't just be a matter of having someone who sounds even more like Alec Guinness but also someone who could impart a little more seriousness...

Whoever you get to impersonate Alec Guinness, I think that he should try to impersonate the voice of Alec Guinness in an earlier work, when he was younger. I think that the tone of voice that Obi-Wan uses as Luke's mentor would be inappropriate for most of the prequels, as he is not in that role and in other circumstances.

If you watch films like "The Man In The White Suit" Alec Guinness' voice didn't change that much as he got older and in that film he is playing a young, slightly naive but altruistically driven man, learning a trade that most people don't understand (rather like learning to be a Jedi).

 

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Redubbing will look fake.

it always does.

Dubbing Ewan to sound more like Alec is a bit to radical a change for me ;-)

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DarthBo said:

Redubbing will look fake.

it always does.

Dubbing Ewan to sound more like Alec is a bit too radical a change for me ;-)

Very little dialogue recorded on set or on location actually ends up in the majority movies so most of it is technically redubbed (including the Star Wars movies as they currently exist).

It might be interesting to see (or rather hear) someone attempt it, but I can imagine it going very wrong if done badly.

 

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I always thought Ewan did a fantastic job.

He and Ian (and Liam for TPM) saved the Prequels of being a total failure.

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Would it be possible to completely remove the end ground battle on Naboo and just have two exciting battles in Space and the lightsaber battle.

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vaderios said:

I took a screenshot from Empire. Never noticed before how big are the ears in TPM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUbcsoQYWA

 

-Angel

You know, would it be possible to just take clips from EMPIRE (and maybe JEDI and just use that Yoda and put overtop the bad Yoda puppet in TPM? 

Jeez, these are going to take a LOT of work....

And I still go for all Jedi to have blue sabers until Luke makes his; I like the idea of Luke's saber signifying a new birth of Jedis into the New Republic.

I would also get rid of Yoda's saber per someone elses post: Palpatine and Yoda were both powerful enough that they didn't need lightsabers anymore (you know, TRUE masters of the Force?)

 

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

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You know, we need to address the whole JEDI thing.

Are these people like Buddhist monks, Franciscan monks, the Holy Roman Empire (warlord) pope and cardinals, Templar knights... a mix of all of the above?

I think that the tattered brown robes need to be replaced by something more ornate and colorful.  They could wear color coded robes to signify their ranking (ala colored belts in Martial arts), with the masters wearing robes of their own design to signify their mastery in their particular field of the Force (like Tai Chi, Wing Chun, Karate, Kempo, etc).  In fact, if we could see a blend of different religious appearances (one Jedi master looks like Pai Mei, another has the orange robes with some ornate designs to distinguish it from straight Buddhist robes, another wears monochromatic hues and maybe even armor ala a Templar - minus the red cross on the chest, while another hides his face with his/her robes and hood so only the eyes can be seen - like a burkha, etc) that would be quite interesting.

The idea that, like the Holy Roman Empire and what the Church had become due to its power and wealth, that power and wealth corrupted the Jedi and is what led to the Republic's fall.  It would also contrast with the poor living conditions that both Kenobi and Yoda are living in when we see them in A NEW HOPE and EMPIRE.  Also keep in mind that even if the PHILOSOPHY is one of charity and giving, that still doesn't mean that the INSTITUTION of the Jedi couldn't be corrupted as so many of our own have been by such things.

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson