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^And this is the ESB thread, innit? But seriously, I jest. ;)

I post that here http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Prequel-Radical-Redux-Ideas-Thread/post/352206/#post352206

So we can leave this topic clean from PT.

-Angel

ImperialFighter said:

Considering how good the new background looks in the ION Cannon shot too, I just wonder what the final look of some of the shots of the AT-AT battle might also show....

I double hope for that ;) Considering the continuous Sky/weather/Sun changing.

Fingers Crossed :)

-Angel

oh_riginal said:

TheBoost said:

oh_riginal said:

What could be cool (though unnecessary to add, admittingly) would be to see the monitor in the Falcon's cockpit when Han and Leia are figuring out where to go, as they eventually decide on Bespin as their destination.

A good reference for what the image might look like would be when Obi Wan was looking at the monitor on Amidala's ship in TPM, when he pointed out Tatooine was close enough to travel to without lightspeed.

But yeah, this wouldn't be a necessary change, but could be cool if done right. Just saying.

I don't know. That moment and when Luke's Xwing leave Dagobah and the camera stays on Yoda are perfect examples as to why ESB is the best... the film focuses on the subtlety of an actors performance instead of some special effect.

 

Well I definitely wouldn't want to change the Yoda moment. But just a slight bit of intercutting of the monitor and Han and Leia looking upon it could be cool. But as I already said, its not necessary. Just something I thought of earlier.

 

Here's a cheap, rough example of what I mean. I don't feel it takes too much from the scene at all, since its only a few seconds taken from Han and Leia's screentime in the scene.

Note: The monitor footage was taken from AOTC, so yes, I know the background doesn't match up with what is SUPPOSED to be outside the Falcon, but the monitor itself was just what I was thinking of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnO_84jbyh4

Also, the monitor shown in TPM is more of how I would imagine it to look, but that monitor's image wasn't shown up close like the one in AOTC, otherwise I would have used that image as a better example. Sorry.

Again, just an experiment I wanted to try, to see how it would feel. I'm not suggesting it be used for ESB:R, but it's an alternate way to see the scene.

Mmm, I reckon that could work.

Was watching ESB:GOUT tonight and made a new observation.

If you look outside the base doors as they’re being closed, it’s very dark outside (you can see twilight on the horizon), but in the next scene (Luke’s vision and Han finding him) it’s still daylight. The distance between the two locations would not be sufficient to explain the difference in light levels; it’d have to be at least a few hundred miles on an Earth-sized planet. If we take the idea that only equatorial Hoth is habitable (borne out in the EU but also by a simple consideration of the basic physics involved), that minimum stretches to 1000 miles. Darkening the second scene would help continuity and also (in my opinion) add tension. Should be quite simple to achieve compared to the rest of what Adywan’s doing for this film. Your thoughts, Ady?

Hi Adywan,

Been following this forum for some time as i was amazed by your star wars ep4 revisited its now my favorite version of the movie. From the clips you have uploaded so far for empire I now can't wait to see what the final version is going to be like.

Whats totally mind boggling to me is that you have out done lucasfilm at their own game! - I am wondering if your job is tv/film media related? - not that it makes much difference.

Good work :)

PS. I am aware that this next thought doesnt really belong in this thread, but as there have been a few thoughts about the prequel trilogy - I just NEEDED! to get out things that have been on my mind! (sorry) I agree that the on the matter of continuity between the 2 trilogies, the PT should be edited to match the OT - not the other way around - which was lucasfilms main mistake i think. Hence a few things that bother me mostly when i think about people with no prior knowledge of star wars watching the 6 films in order of episode 1 - 6.

With the movies the way they are, it seems to me to get maximum enjoyment and the surprise/shock factor of the revelations in the OT (which is what i think made the movies so captivating) it makes sense to watch ep4-6 and then 1-3.

I would prefer to watch the movies in episode order 1- 6, but to do that and not ruin the (i suppose you could call it..) punchline that "makes" the original triliogy. I was thinking that Yoda should not be in the PT - he might be referred to by other characters but you never see or hear him talking. On the subject of Anakin's fall to the Sith, in a similar way - in episode 3 leave anakin's fate more of a mystery (a cliffhanger). So that the audience is left unsure exatly what has happened to anakin possibly that all the Jedi are wiped out including Obi Wan (hence uncle owen's comment at the dinner table in ep4). Padme is pregnant and alive at the end of the movie - but no talk of twins, its not necessary that she dies at the end of the movie or that you see her giving birth, as Leia's line in ROTJ resolves that part - when luke questions her about her mother. References to Bail having a wife in ep3 can be edited out - thereby the mystery of Padme also remains a mystery - did she die at the end of episode 3 or did Bail end up marrying her sometime after the events of episode 3. As episode 4 begins - her fate is irelevent to the story of Luke Skywalker.

If necessary footage of Anakin's fall to the dark side, Padme's birth of the twins and her death and palpatines "order 66" could be incorporated as a flashback/big reveal sequence in return of the Jedi after Luke questions the ghost of Obi Wan about the "Truth".

I think editing Return of the jedi for this reason would be acceptable, but not sure if you need to actually see Anakin's fall to the dark side or the fight with Obi wan - I think Ben's revelation to Luke (and yoda's) about the truth of his father - ups the mystery factor surrounding his fall from grace and the emotional impact of the whole saga.

I'm gonna stop there! sorry this became bit of an essay....

Thanks

Cutnshut

I agree adding Flashbacks would just suck!

I hate the nightmare scenes in RotS as they are completely out of place with the other movies, 

adding subtle audio clips in the right spot on the other hand could do wonders

Good point. forget what i said about putting the flashback in ROTJ, I liked the way others put it "to edit the PT to fit the OT not the otherway around".

For years I had been wondering what episodes 1 -3 would be like long before they actually made them. I would have gone in a different direction in the end. I certainly wouldnt have made anything that ruins the surprises/shocks of the original movies, but adds to the mystery/suspense leading up to the next trilogy.

But i am not a movie maker at the end of the day...

cutnshut

Nice to hear that Ady is planning something huge for RotJ.  It needs it in a big way.

I'm glad that Hoth backgrounds are being modified.  They are too blurry overall for my tastes, even when there's not a snowstorm to explain it.

cutnshut said:

I was thinking that Yoda should not be in the PT - he might be referred to by other characters but you never see or hear him talking. On the subject of Anakin's fall to the Sith, in a similar way - in episode 3 leave anakin's fate more of a mystery (a cliffhanger). So that the audience is left unsure exatly what has happened to anakin possibly that all the Jedi are wiped out including Obi Wan (hence uncle owen's comment at the dinner table in ep4). Padme is pregnant and alive at the end of the movie - but no talk of twins, its not necessary that she dies at the end of the movie or that you see her giving birth, as Leia's line in ROTJ resolves that part - when luke questions her about her mother. References to Bail having a wife in ep3 can be edited out - thereby the mystery of Padme also remains a mystery - did she die at the end of episode 3 or did Bail end up marrying her sometime after the events of episode 3. As episode 4 begins - her fate is irelevent to the story of Luke Skywalker.

If necessary footage of Anakin's fall to the dark side, Padme's birth of the twins and her death and palpatines "order 66" could be incorporated as a flashback/big reveal sequence in return of the Jedi after Luke questions the ghost of Obi Wan about the "Truth".

Great points all.  Ideally for me, there would be no Yoda, no Jabba, no "Jedi University", and no reveal of Anakin's fate until possibly at the end of Ep III.  In my ideal versions, Anakin is in his early twenties in Ep.I, has his epic battle with Obi-Wan in EP.II and is presumed dead, then Ep.III features this badass new villain named Vader who is plotting against the Republic and the Jedi.  Only late into the episode is it revealed that he IS Anakin, but it is too late as the Republic's fate is sealed.

To tie this in with ESB :) , I would also have Boba Fett (no Jango) featured in one of the episodes where he comes in, kicks ass, wins, and leaves.  Just like ESB.  SO when watching in order, the audience will see him again in ESB and know there's a real threat for our heroes from witnessing his actions in the prequels.

Ah, to dream....

Oh, and nay I say to flashbacks or dream sequences.  They weren't in 5 of the 6 films and don't need to be in ANY of them.

Well what is supposed to be the climax is vader fighting himself to throw the emperor through the reactor shaft, A flash back doesnt add anything but rather takes away from the edge of seat moment. If george lucas wants flash backs im sure hell put em in