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Luke Vader said:

AxiaEuxine said:

adywan said:

i just can't wait to get my hands on those PT moies so i can rip them to shreds.

 

gawd you depress me so much when you say things like that. I love ANHR and ESBR seems to be right on track as far as quality and vision goes. Yet your vision of the pequels seems to be the same as everyone elses and that means gutting them. With everything you've said that you are taking out of the prequels there doesnt seem to be enough material left for one movie, let alone three. Im just sad I wont have a revisited prequel trilogy to go along with the OTR.

 

I somewhat agree on this, if you hate the prequels so much ady what will there be left to show when you're done with them? lol

My main gripe about the prequels wasn't the plot(which I like) nor the special effects(with some exeptions like the cartoony characters in the podrace for example) but it was the VOICES and poor delivery of the lines. While all of the voices in the OT where PERFECT(from James Earl jones to Harrison Ford and Ian McDiarmid and so on) the PT voices are horrible like Natalie Portman(especially in TPM), Hayden, Pernilla August, Jake Lloyd and even Christopher Lee and Frank Oz. The only good ones were Ian McDiarmid(except when he turns to The Emperor) and Liam Neeson.

So a REDUB of of these characters would be what would help this trilogy the most :) mesa thinks ;)

Christopher Lee was bad? Blasphemy!!!

Yeah that squealing MOUSE droid running away fast after Chewbacca growls at it was more sophisticated than the childish slapstick and toilet humour we saw in the PT and ROTJ.

Yeah that squealing MOUSE droid running away fast after Chewbacca growls at it was more sophisticated than the childish slapstick and toilet humour we saw in the PT and ROTJ.

In what way? Admitedly TPM was overkill, but I don't see why ROTJ gets such a bad rap: it balances the darkness of the Emperor scenes with the lighthearted forest battles with the Ewoks. Remember that in ANH the main characters don't take their mortal danger very seriously, and the Storm Troopers have never been able to shoot anything except Uncle Lars and Aunt Beru, even when our heros are right in front of them and not even moving (Luke after Obi Wan dies). To be honest I think TESB is the anomoly here. Anyway, these movies aren't meant to be overly serious but instead a timeless mythology with special effects and child-like humour. 

X-Wing Mechanic said:

Yeah that squealing MOUSE droid running away fast after Chewbacca growls at it was more sophisticated than the childish slapstick and toilet humour we saw in the PT and ROTJ.

 

In what way? Admitedly TPM was overkill, but I don't see why ROTJ gets such a bad rap: it balances the darkness of the Emperor scenes with the lighthearted forest battles with the Ewoks. Remember that in ANH the main characters don't take their mortal danger very seriously, and the Storm Troopers have never been able to shoot anything except Uncle Lars and Aunt Beru, even when our heros are right in front of them and not even moving (Luke after Obi Wan dies). To be honest I think TESB is the anomoly here. Anyway, these movies aren't meant to be overly serious but instead a timeless mythology with special effects and child-like humour.

 

 

I think some people have huge adult egos that when anything slapstick or childlike, their "I'm an ADULT and too sophisticated to enjoy that" ego prevents them from liking it.

Than being said, if you added up all the slapsticky moments in TPM they would likely take up less than 2 minutes screentime.

one thing about the PT that didnt work for me, regardless of the acting/humour/characters/graphics, was how the films didnt seem to run as a six film series, it is obvious how the two trilogies run separately, but as a six film saga i dont think they work as well. some people watch them IV, V, VI, I, II, III, or I, II, III, IV, V, VI, or maybe even (for me anyway) IV, II, V, III, VI.

are you planning to make them run in order? with more visual consistency, and a tonal overview to all six films so they are more like six parts to a bigger picture?

i guess an example of which would be making the epilogue section of ROTJ (ie victory celebrations etc) like a potential prologue section of TPM.

The OT consisted of rebels on the run to mostly one climate low populated backwater planets. Hoth, Dagobah, Tatooine, Moon of Endor. Yavin IV., Pretty much Cloud City was most like the prequels.

Being there is about a 20 year gap between movies, it makes sense of the differences.

well yeah, i noticed that too. i personally would like to see a PT that has been retrofied to have the same feel as the OT. not saying the PT was bad, just not the PT i wanted.

ben_danger said:

well yeah, i noticed that too. i personally would like to see a PT that has been retrofied to have the same feel as the OT. not saying the PT was bad, just not the PT i wanted.

Retrofied? No Coruscant? It would never had the exact feel unless it was made and first watched by us around the time we watched to originals the first time.

We had a Tantive IV, Lars Homestead, Star Destroyer bridge and other things that look just like the OT, seriously what did you want? The prequels were set on mostly heavily populated planets, the OT was set on mostly low populated planets. 10,000 SW fans want the movies 10,000 of different ways, a movie can't be made custom for all.

ABC said:

X-Wing Mechanic said:

... and the Storm Troopers have never been able to shoot anything except Uncle Lars and Aunt Beru, even when our heros are right in front of them and not even moving (Luke after Obi Wan dies)...

 

This Stormtroopers matter itself would diserve a thread ! Lol !

Leia got shot in the arm.

Sevb32 said:

ben_danger said:

well yeah, i noticed that too. i personally would like to see a PT that has been retrofied to have the same feel as the OT. not saying the PT was bad, just not the PT i wanted.

 

Retrofied? No Coruscant? It would never had the exact feel unless it was made and first watched by us around the time we watched to originals the first time.

 

We had a Tantive IV, Lars Homestead, Star Destroyer bridge and other things that look just like the OT, seriously what did you want? The prequels were set on mostly heavily populated planets, the OT was set on mostly low populated planets. 10,000 SW fans want the movies 10,000 of different ways, a movie can't be made custom for all.

did my opinion upset you or something? i loved coruscant.

What has this got to do with the doughnuts?

corellian77 said: 

I think the point ben_danger was making is that the PT doesn't have the same visual feel as the OT.  Yes, part of that is due to having populated settings vs. unpopulated ones, but part of it too is that the PT seemed to be missing that used universe feel.  I know their exist popular explanations for this (it was before the Empire, Naboo was a rich, artisitic planet, etc.), but when it comes right down to it, a lot of the environments in the PT didn't feel lived in like they did in the OT.  I could believe Luke spent hours in his garage.  I could believe Han and Chewie clocked hours upon hours in the Falcon.  I could believe the rebel bases on Yavin and Hoth were working structures.  Naboo, Kamino, and many parts of Coruscant, however, look pristine and unused, and hence unrealistic.

Well said.

here's one when luke is falling, can he make it look less fake

corellian77 said:

ben_danger said:

Sevb32 said:

ben_danger said:

well yeah, i noticed that too. i personally would like to see a PT that has been retrofied to have the same feel as the OT. not saying the PT was bad, just not the PT i wanted.

 

Retrofied? No Coruscant? It would never had the exact feel unless it was made and first watched by us around the time we watched to originals the first time.

 

We had a Tantive IV, Lars Homestead, Star Destroyer bridge and other things that look just like the OT, seriously what did you want? The prequels were set on mostly heavily populated planets, the OT was set on mostly low populated planets. 10,000 SW fans want the movies 10,000 of different ways, a movie can't be made custom for all.

 

did my opinion upset you or something? i loved coruscant.

 

I think the point ben_danger was making is that the PT doesn't have the same visual feel as the OT. Yes, part of that is due to having populated settings vs. unpopulated ones, but part of it too is that the PT seemed to be missing that used universe feel. I know their exist popular explanations for this (it was before the Empire, Naboo was a rich, artisitic planet, etc.), but when it comes right down to it, a lot of the environments in the PT didn't feel lived in like they did in the OT. I could believe Luke spent hours in his garage. I could believe Han and Chewie clocked hours upon hours in the Falcon. I could believe the rebel bases on Yavin and Hoth were working structures. Naboo, Kamino, and many parts of Coruscant, however, look pristine and unused, and hence unrealistic.

The PT weren't about smugglers and farmboys with piece of junk looking ships like the OT was. They made things look used in the PT when they were needed. Why would you want all the Naboo ships to looked scuffed up when they probably had not even yet been used anyway? I can point out a lot of things on Tatooine in the prequels that have scuffs and dirt, and wear on them. The main point, as I said was these enviroments (besides Tatooine) were not the same ones as in the OT therefore that would not be the same. They even had the same Lar's garage built for AOTC did you forget that? As I recall it didn't exactly look clean & pristine either. Naboo looked just as used as Italy does, would you really want it to be dirty everywhere? Kamino was supposed to be pristine. Why would you want senatorial offices on Coruscant to be dirty and used looking? Did you see the back streets behind the Nightclub scene (Zam interrogation), they were filthy. I think there is more wear and dirt in the prequels than you think.

vaderios said:

Darth Piccolo said:

here's one when luke is falling, can he make it look less fake

Like...how?

Never bothered me that.

 

-Angel

 

They already improved that scene a lot, originally it looked like Luke was a falling ghost, but with the SE they better color corrected him. Maybe a bit more could be done though.